Does anyone know is you can still jump unaff if you become a BSJA club member?

Yes you can, but you cannot accept more than £10 prize money if its not a BS Competition

Edited to say - not sure about club membership as you don't get prize money at BS, so might be exempt from this rule
 
Yes you can. Usually if you cant the schedule for that particular show will state as such. I.E Novice classes is usually for the horse and rider combination not to have won (and sometimes been placed at all) at that height before but other than that i assume it is fine as long as the shows allow. I know plenty of people who compete both just because there is a better variety of show dates and venues for unaffilated, especially just for schooling and it can be a bit cheaper as well than affilated class entries :)
 
Jen_Cots said:
Yes you can, but you cannot accept more than £10 prize money if its not a BS Competition
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I very much doubt anyone actually rejects prize money though (I wouldn't, not that any unaffiliated round me have ever offered any! But how would BSJA ever know!). It doesn't matter what type of BSJA member you are, you can still do unaffiliated as long as the venues rules dont say otherwise. I'm a normal BSJA member and do unaffiliated too - venues round me dont have any rules as such about this. RC shows often do though (ie. once you win a certain amount BSJA then you have to do the next class etc.).
 
I think it's wrong competing an affiliated horse in non affiliated classes! You choose to become affiliated to move up a level so why move back down and compete against novices? If so compete non competitive to give the genuine novices a chance
 
gill84 said:
I think it's wrong competing an affiliated horse in non affiliated classes! You choose to become affiliated to move up a level so why move back down and compete against novices? If so compete non competitive to give the genuine novices a chance
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Unaffiliated does not mean novice.
Jumping a horse that is successful at say disco (1mtr) in a 75cm unaff is perhaps morally wrong but jumping the same horse in a 1mtr open unaff I see no problem with.
 
Right I am a bit confused about this!! Is there shows that are held for this 70cm to 1m or can you go to a normal BS show and jump a 80cm open!! If this makes sense???
 
gill84 said:
I think it's wrong competing an affiliated horse in non affiliated classes! You choose to become affiliated to move up a level so why move back down and compete against novices? If so compete non competitive to give the genuine novices a chance
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Why shouldn't we jump our 4yo babies in 85cms/95cms unaffiliated classes just because we are reg. BSJA? This is ideal practice for a young horse and young rider? We do not jump unaffiliated to win, we go for experience. We have not won money unaffiliated for years but why shouldn't a 16yo girl get a rosette if she has just scraped into 6th place by getting a nice steady double clear?

Sorry, disagree with you here.
 
Gill84 - where I live if you affiliated and only competed affiliated you would get to 1 comp a month or less! As they are normally not mixed shows but separate for junior/senior

Unaffiliated goes up to 1 20 at one of my local venues, I am not affiliated but will be when I get new horse and i just compete unaff at the mo and it doesn't bother me if BS riders are there, if someone was jumping newcomers and then went to 80cm unaffiliated people may complain but if they stick to their own level what's the problem?

Some BS riders may have had a bad day say at British novice and need a confidence boost so may choose to do an 85cm, 90cm unaff to build confidence back
Personally I think it's silly to say they shouldn't be allowed to do unaff
 
ttt said:
Why shouldn't we jump our 4yo babies in 85cms/95cms unaffiliated classes just because we are reg. BSJA? This is ideal practice for a young horse and young rider? We do not jump unaffiliated to win, we go for experience. We have not won money unaffiliated for years but why shouldn't a 16yo girl get a rosette if she has just scraped into 6th place by getting a nice steady double clear?

Sorry, disagree with you here.
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I agree with this and would also like to add that some adults who learn to ride later in life often buy an ex-bsja horse that is older/back from a limiting injury and less able to compete at top level anymore. This gives these horses a good quality of life and really helps riders progress to ride in a more technical/accurate manner ready for a BSJA horse.

I do not think that there is automatically an advantage. Often these horses are quirky rides who have lost a significant degree of their scope and can actually be more difficult to get round a novice course than one without a BSJA background. It is therefore a bit disappointing that these partnerships struggle to be able to compete unaffiliated and even trailblazers at some comps (even non-competitively). To compete at the same height at BSJA shows is often a pretty big facing without some unaffiliated under your belt.
 
gill84 said:
I think it's wrong competing an affiliated horse in non affiliated classes! You choose to become affiliated to move up a level so why move back down and compete against novices? If so compete non competitive to give the genuine novices a chance
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Unaffiliated isn't necessarily for "novices", I expect novices to be doing the smaller classes but I dont think a "novice" will be jumping 3ft6 unaffiliated for example. Lots of very decent riders do unaffiliated simply because they cant afford (or dont want to) BSJA. I do it very occassionally with mine because there isn't enough BSJA in my area and its very expensive to do if you're just bringing the horse back into work and want a bit of a practice!
 
I dont see the problem with jumping affiliated and unaffiliated!!!!!!! a 80cm/90cm/1m class is the same thing weather it be affil or unaff but if you do both It just expands the amount of shows/venues you can attend, also with the BSJA Club membership you can compete in the regional leagues which is nice as something to work towards
 
max306 said:
I dont see the problem with jumping affiliated and unaffiliated!!!!!!! a 80cm/90cm/1m class is the same thing weather it be affil or unaff but if you do both It just expands the amount of shows/venues you can attend, also with the BSJA Club membership you can compete in the regional leagues which is nice as something to work towards
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I agree with this. A lot of people are moving back to unaffiliated, particularly eventing, for financial reasons! There are often people un affiliated that stay at lower levels when they should go up a class.

I'm not a fan of people buying an all singing all dancing horse and doing lower levels - particularly when they are a lot lower than the horse has previously done. It is allowed, and could help a novice get confident, but I don't think its the most sporting thing to do when competing against novice riders on novice horses..
 
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