Patchworkpony
Well-Known Member
All the sycamores round here have HUGE black fungal spots on the leaves - I do wonder if there is a connection.
I can't remember who or when it was but someone mentioned that AM was to do with the mould that grew on the damp seeds and leaves of any falling tree. The mould would be particularly rampant in mild winters which we have had for several years now. It's mild again now... there were people having a picnic in dresses on Friday in the park! However, it has been dry...
I really hope some reserach is published soon. It would break my heart to see my horse die in this way. Horrible.
read bhs report 2013
Well quite clearly they do eat them or they wouldn't be poisoned by them.
Well quite clearly they do eat them or they wouldn't be poisoned by them.
Point being hairycob they eat them for want of something else to eat!!
Point being hairycob they eat them for want of something else to eat!!
But the vast majority DON'T eat them. Maybe we are seeing more cases because the way we keep horses has changed so much and our managent is putting them at risk or maybe we are just more aware of it. Maybe horses are eating them because they are lacking a certain vitamin, maybe selective breeding has taken away so much of their natural instincts they no longer have the ability to determine poisonous foods from good food, maybe climate change affects the seeds or just maybe some horses like the taste, who knows for sure? All we can do is be aware of the risk and take steps if we need to, not panic and go cutting down every single tree as some people are suggesting!
Well you've capped it all now Dave. So now you are accusing the people who are saying that their horses had plenty to eat are lying.
If you are not drunk or stupid you should be hanging your head in shame
Are you getting some kind of kick out of upsetting people like this?
Seems to me that Dave the dog is in fact a troll.
Seems to me that Dave the dog is in fact a troll.
precisely what do you mean by that
dave the dog, I have just read the BHS 2013 report you mentioned. Can't find it. Enlighten me???
Don't you mean farewell?Fair well
How are you do sure they don't eat them? Have you read the thread?
Some trees have it, some don't.
Some parts of some trees have it, some don't.
Some seeds on some trees have it, some don't.
And even when they do, it varies in strength.
No horse near a sycamore tree is guaranteed safe.
I'm sure it makes people feel safer to blame the owners of dead horses. I just hope those who are doing it don't have to learn the hard way. If I had any on my land, they would be going as soon as I could get hold of someone to fell them.
I agree with everything you say - especially the fact that NO ONE really knew of the dangers. I'm older than you and many of my contemporaries would have read like a who's who of the horse world in the old days and they certainly never mentioned it. Take no notice of Dave - he can't even spell! You were very brave about your sad loss but have turned it around to help others. Remember it's always the empty vessels that make the most noise.The big management problem with sycamore is that the seeds ate designed to travel on the wind. The yard I am at mow doesn't have a tree within 1/4 mile but after a strong wind we still get seeds in the field. We have to accept there will always be a risk but if we can learn when it is likely to be higher and to recognise the signs in horses that is the best we can do. I do find in funny though that at 56 the first time I heard that sycamores could be an issue was after the 2013 research, that none of the older horsemen/women I know had heard that (& some of them are flipping knowledgeable), that none of the vets knew & yet on this post there are people who claimed they always knew sycamores are poisonous. Sorry if I have problems believin you.
Is there a way to block individuals like on Facebook because I think I will burst something if I read another post from dodgy Dave. I see he didn't take up my offer - surprise surprise.
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