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i have posted before about my boyfriend wanting to buy my friends ex-riding school horse. basically, she wants to sell him because she'd like a deposit on a flat with her boyfriend, and she doesnt have the time to look after him.
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Red would be ideal for my bf. the bf can catch red, groom him, and tack up, and then mount up and walk and trot. hes been riding for 2 monthe now, and he loves it. wev discussed at length how much it would cost him to keep red, and that itd mean the end of his friday night drinking sessions.

Red came trotting across the field whinnying at adam the other week - hes never done this with my friend or me, and i looked after him all winter.
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my friend wants 1500 pounds for red with tack, but..
-hes 17,
-he wouldnt pass a vet due to a massive knee (but has been sound in the 2 years iv known him)
-he doesnt have a passport
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-he desperately needs his teeth doing
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and
-she owes her farrier 200 pounds (dont know why the farrier still shoes him)
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so would it be fair to offer her 900 pounds, pay her farrier, tell her to sell her tack seperately (doesnt fit red v. well) and say that she can ride him twice a week?
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or is it slightly mean?

any opinions or thoughts please!
 
i'd say thats a bit much for him! depends on how much you want him though! its ok to say you can get another horse for that money but do you want another horse or do you want him??

i'd defo not offer her any more than 700/800 so she can put it up a bit and see what happens, she's probably just trying it on because she knows you want him!!
 
What would you do if she wasn't your friend? what would you offer for the horse? IMO, I'd maybe pay her £900 (maybe less), I wouldn't pay her farrier (it's her debt), I wouldn't want the tack and I wouldn't be promising she could ride him as part of the terms of the sale!

Goodness, I must be Super Evil!!!
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id be very dubious about buying him for that price and especially as she has outstanding bills with the farrier, i would make her a offer that you think is right. i would not offer the right to ride him twice a week.. if she wants him to go to a good home and be looked after she should be more than happy with the offer of £900 - for a 17year old with bad teeth and crap fitting tack - she cant be shocked!
 
The horse is probably only worth meat money because of the knee I am afraid to say. I would be very tempted to get a vet to x ray it and look at it as it would be a shame if your boyfriend fell in love with it and found that the knee suddenly deteriorated.

In reality the horse is probably a liability and your friend needs to be realistic and should let you have him for about £100.00.
 
He is worth what you'd pay for him. I'd offer £1000 as she's a friend, and try to be tactful regarding the farrier bill - I wouldn't pay it as it's her debt, not yours.
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I wouldnt touch it but if you are determined to buy then offer a nominal sum and insist she gets a passport (not just an application) before you hand over any money.

In buying this horse, to basically do her a favour, you are taking on a whole load of spending.

Look elsewhere.
 
If that is what you think is fair then that is what you must offer. If she is a friend you don't want to fall out over money , but I would just say she could ride him occasionally with your permission or it might get that she just carries on doing the riding she has always done and he might want less work if his leg gets any worse
 
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Well - quite simply - she can't sell him without a passport.

So that's the end of that.

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Once again, I agree! No passport, no horse, end of!

But by the sound of his this horse is pretty much knackard, so she should just give it to you!
 
i know she carnt sell him without a passport- the idea is that we get him one in bfs name before any money changes hands.

i dont really want to have to pay the farrier.- just thought itd be an extra incentive for her to let us have him.

and as for the riding, although shed be all keen to start off with, within 2 months shed stop coming up to the yard!

hed be so well looked after,at the mo she never comes to see him or nething cos shes so busy aith her bf.

unnfortunately my bf loves him already, and i know hes a soft touch but he just wants to give him a nice home.
 

Then fall out with her! Tell her to get the passport, and youll do her a favour and take him off h er hands! Yor already gonna have to spent money on his teeth and possibly alot on vets bills in the future coz of his knee.
 
For goodness sake is this woman an imbecile....SHE needs to get the passport. If she wants to sell you the horse then she has to do it herself.

No, dont pay the farrier, dont offer to let her come and ride and dont give her more than meat money.

Personally I think you are quite mad to buy it but its your decision.
 
Yep, no passport no sale, and if it was me I would give no more than £500 for him,with no tack and point out that his teeth need to be done and she needs to pay £200 out of that to her farrier.....so I think your being very generous...but that's me I would offer that in view of his knee and age!
 
ok. looks like thats gonna happen.
his knee doesnt bother him at the minute, its got soft 2 egg shaped/sized lumps on it.
i know it could cause problems in the future though.
my uncles a retired vet and has been to see him, he thinks hes maybe gone down on the road or been kicked and that the swellings are joint fluid.
 
Ok, the sentimental part of me says.

Go up to the farm with £500 CASH, and a written receipt ready for your boyfriend and her to sign (two copies). Offer her the cash there and then for the horse, and offer to pay off the farrier. She signs the receipt - horse is your boyfriends, and you can both deal with the passport issue.

Why not give the old boy some happy times in his final years - and if it means your boyfriend get's to ride a sane, safe horse that he is confident in dealing with - great.

I bet she will bite your had off if she actually sees the hard cash.
 
ok, i think im too soft! my bf wants the horse (hes 15hh) and i think we'll probably offer her 600 and see what happens. then she can pay the bills! il print off a form for the passport now.
 
Arrr bless him. Why not just go in with a fair price and forget about the farrier bills and all the extra things you want to offer to get the horse? If she says no, you can always go up a bit, or offer to pay the farrier then if you really want to. TBH though, I think if she wants to sell, she will jump at the chance - I dont think she will be inundated with offers for the poor chap. If you manage to get him it sounds like he is a lucky boy!
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Soft swellings often cause no problems. I hope you and your boyfriend really enjoy this horse and give him the love he deserves.You know the horse and you could do a lot worse [as some have on here with horses they don't know]
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amymay thankyou!
we were going to offer her hard cash anyway, shes a student so when she sees it shell be like 'ohmygod' and we just want to give red a nice, loving home with a loving dad and hed want for nothing. hes super safe- we hacked out the other day with me riding solo and he just followed sol all the way! even when sol p*ssed about he just stood and watched!
 
I would offer her something like £600, and let her know she'll have it in cash as soon as she gets the passport through. Her debt with the farrier is really her issue, and do you really want her turning up twice a week to ride your boyfriend's horse? I hope you get him, he sounds lovely and I'm sure you can have some happy years with him.
 
Do it. Sometimes we get so het up about things that really don't matter. Providing you are prepared to pay and expect to pay for treatment of any issues that arise, thats the main thing.

Do take the cash out of your wallet and physically show it to her. Do not invite her to come anywhere near the horse once you have handed over the money. And make sure she signs both copies of the receipt - one for her records and one for yours.

Offer her an additional sum for tack and rugs.

I feel quite excited for you, the boyfriend and the horse. Do let us know what you do.
 
bex1984 -i dont think shed come up to ride to be honest. i was beginning to think we were mad for wanting him at the beginning of this post- everybody seemed to think it was a sh*t idea. hes great is red, i love him to bits aswell, id rather we got him and had him as an ornament (if the worst comes to the worst) than him go to someone who wouldnt treat him well.
 
id say the price is fair IF..SHE pays the farrier not you-you didnt own him when this happened AND has his teeth done(although its only about 30 quid)
passport wise-you should be ok just to apply for one asap?
 
thankyou for the encouragement! on the receipt would you just need the date, description of red and both signatures and the price?
his rugs arent worth having- there ripped to shreds and leak.
an example of her not giving a sh*t about him was when she turned him out in a 6ft rug-he takes a 6'6- all because she dint want to get his 'nice purple one wet' (an old one of sols that i had given her). i had to bring him in and put another rug of sols on.
will let you know what happens!
THANKYOU!
 
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What would you do if she wasn't your friend? what would you offer for the horse? IMO, I'd maybe pay her £900 (maybe less), I wouldn't pay her farrier (it's her debt), I wouldn't want the tack and I wouldn't be promising she could ride him as part of the terms of the sale!

Goodness, I must be Super Evil!!!
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Ditto...except for £900.00 is steep, I've paid less than that for young sound horses that have passed the vet and been passported!
 
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