Dog attacks girl :(

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I am not in anyway saying I don't feel sorry for the little girl and her family, but to me this injury sounds more like an over enthusiastic dog jumping up to say hello rather than an "attack". I have had a split lip on more than one occasion from my dogs doing this. Once again poor staffies get the blame and yet the dog is described as having a "pug looking face" which doesn't sound particularly staff like to me. Hope the little girl makes a speedy recovery.

http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/appeal_for_witnesses_after_dog_attacks_girl
 
I hope also the little girl makes a full recovery, the poor little mite also lost some teeth.

The article did make me angry in what it said about Staffs in general in that they are know to be aggressive without correct training and handling. This criteria could be applied to lots of other breeds and possibley all dogs.
 
Sounds like a boxer actually?
I hope the wee girl's alright and doesn't end up terrified of dogs :(
I've been bitten a few times in my life, once was my own fault and it was the family dog a lab x retriever who bit my face. Another when I was young too, went to clap a strange dog (JRT) and it went for my hand (I was well warned as a kid not to approach strange dogs so more fool me :p)
Last 1 was recently and it was a border collie, she approached me, I let her sniff my hand and next thing she was going for it :/
Met plenty of the so called more aggressive breeds and remain unscathed after my encounters :D
 
I've had quite a few facial injuries from over-enthusiastic dogs, all my own :o
I know one lady, her dog (he's currently tagged on my wall on FB if anyone wants to see him :p) came out of the showring after a win, she bent down to give him a cuddle, he leapt up and knocked out both of her front teeth and she needed some very expensive dental work :o

Hope the wee girl recovers x
 
I think I've been bitten a fare few times as a kid - my own stupid fault mind! Certainly never scared me off dogs though. My friend has some nice scars on her face from when she was bitten by a GSD when she was about 2 yo - was her own fault though as she apparently hit it over the head with a frying pan!!!!!

I feel sorry for these breeds that seem to just get tarred. I wish they'd print the amount of 'attacks' by small, toy breeds. Unfortunately they don't tend to leave some nasty injuries but, in my mind their attacks are just as bad but yet it seems tolerated and even people find it 'funny'!!!
 
Lost count of the black eyes/nosebleeds /seeing stars I have had from over affectionate bull terriers.AND not forgetting the "bullie run"..wher they dementedly go at full speed almost blindly ..over sofas/ through people with the occasional loving rip out of your shirt hem..all in the name of the joy of living.Perfectly normal bullie behaviour. NEVER put your face down for a "loving" without a thumb firmly in it`s collar to prevent that rocket upward take off nosebleed..all in enthusiastic affection.:D
Cut lip? If the girl had been "attacked" she would not have had any face left !!
 
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I think you are all being very unsympathetic, she is a small girl who was bitten by a dog she didn't know - staffie, lab or poodle it was wrong. Poor thing.
 
I don't think any of us are being unsympathetic, and I particularly stated this in my OP. My point was that the report is headlined very graphically "attack" and yet to anyone who knows dogs this does not sound like an attack, more like an overenthusiastic dog. This dog may well end up being pts if it is traced when it may not have done anything other than greeted her.
A friends son had his face quite badly ripped by a mastiff a couple of months ago, bite marks above his eye, on his cheek and on is lip. He knew the dog but had gone up to it in its fenced run, leaned over the fence and grabbed it round the head to fuss it. His mother saw the bite and very sensibly says she doesn't know if it was an aggressive bite or if the dog was just over excited. Although she is of course upset they are not doing anything more about it , and the lad has since met the dog and they have been fine together, he freely admits it was his fault. Can you imagine the headlines if the papers had got hold of that?
 
Well that boys mother must be crazy then!!! My brother was mauled by a dog when he was 4. It scarred his face for life and bit off his tongue which was surgically re-attached. It was the single, most terrifying thing I've ever seen in my life. We found out after it had bitten various family members before but had always been given the benefit of the doubt as it didn't mean it!!!! WTF!!!??? My brother could have been killed. You can never give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to kids. They can kill for goodness sake. If either of my two ever bit in any way, doing such damage as mentioned above, they'd be destroyed and as for the mother above, and the dogs owner, how irresponsible! That made me so angry!!!
 
I would so like to know the circumstances surrounding this "attack". Did the dog just run up and bite her? was she fussing it? running? screaming? where was the mother and owner when this happened?
 
It sounds like your brother had a horrific experience I can understand how terrifying it would be for you if you witnessed it. However, to repeat, the dog did not maul the lad, it connected with him once and then moved away, no attempt to continue biting. The dog was in its own secure space, where its responsible owners always put it when they weren't about, the boy was not a little child, he is 14, and freely admits he did a stupid thing.
Our heeler pup bit my son in a similar way recently, he was playing with him and Pickle jumped up and caught his lip. As an irresponsible parent my response was "serves you right". He knows not to wind the pup up and at 18 certainly should know better.
 
I was very firmly taught to respect all animals,if I disobeyed/disrespected them and got hurt, a good wallop would follow for both crimes.Once ,pony mad as I was at five or so,I was told not to touch a pony on it`s lower flank..so of course I did..and got both barrels from it landing in a nettle patch. AND then was roundly laughed at.It is called learning.
 
EAST KENT said:
I was very firmly taught to respect all animals,if I disobeyed/disrespected them and got hurt, a good wallop would follow for both crimes.Once ,pony mad as I was at five or so,I was told not to touch a pony on it`s lower flank..so of course I did..and got both barrels from it landing in a nettle patch. AND then was roundly laughed at.It is called learning.
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Your parents would not, presumably, have laughed if the kick had killed or disabled you.

There are far too many dogs going about in public places out of control, be they "only friendly" (often exuberantly so) or what ever. Why on earth do folk (usually their owners) assume that dogs will not bite/jump up/knock over/fight other dogs/ run up to possibly aggressive dogs on leads even those with muzzles on ...... they do!..... I'm fed up with the "He's only being friendly" excuse for rude dogs, and their owners who do not have a scooby about what under CLOSE or ON A LEAD means.
 
Spook said:
Your parents would not, presumably, have laughed if the kick had killed or disabled you.

There are far too many dogs going about in public places out of control, be they "only friendly" (often exuberantly so) or what ever. Why on earth do folk (usually their owners) assume that dogs will not bite/jump up/knock over/fight other dogs/ run up to possibly aggressive dogs on leads even those with muzzles on ...... they do!..... I'm fed up with the "He's only being friendly" excuse for rude dogs, and their owners who do not have a scooby about what under CLOSE or ON A LEAD means.
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BUT you do not know the circumstances of this bite AT ALL- do not assume it was all about the dog, and not the kid.
 
Spook I totally agree with you about dogs running up to people and owners using the "he's only being friendly" excuse. Having a breed that can provoke the wrong reaction in many people I make damn sure my dogs never go up to anyone without permission. My point in the OP which keeps being missed is the way the report calls it an attack when it may well have just been an over friendly greeting, which I agree shouldn't have happened had the dog been under proper control but it is not the same thing as a vicious attack.
 
Ah but I have not suggested that I do know of the circumstances of this "bite", if indeed it was a bite, have I Lexie?

The blame for this situation lies fairly and squarely with the dogs owner/keeper and no one else. The dog was not under control/properly supervised, if it had been there would not have been an incident.

I agree that children should not approach dogs without permission, in fact, personally, I do not think children should be brought up to think they can pet strange dogs at all. However, dogs in public places should at all times be under the close control of their handlers, and, until this is the accepted procedure these incidents will happen.
 
Spook said:
Ah but I have not suggested that I do know of the circumstances of this "bite", if indeed it was a bite, have I Lexie?

The blame for this situation lies fairly and squarely with the dogs owner/keeper and no one else. The dog was not under control/properly supervised, if it had been there would not have been an incident.

I agree that children should not approach dogs without permission, in fact, personally, I do not think children should be brought up to think they can pet strange dogs at all. However, dogs in public places should at all times be under the close control of their handlers, and, until this is the accepted procedure these incidents will happen.
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But I could say EXACTLY the same thing about the child- If the child was under control/properly supervised then there would not have been an incident, it should have been under the close supervision of its guardian at all times, and until this happens incidents like this will continue to occur- so again do not lay ALL the blame on the dog when you do not know the circumstances.
 
MurphysMinder said:
Spook I totally agree with you about dogs running up to people and owners using the "he's only being friendly" excuse. Having a breed that can provoke the wrong reaction in many people I make damn sure my dogs never go up to anyone without permission. QUOTE]

I agree with this as well, I walk a friends rather large ridgeback (I'm sure someone has actually just superglued a ridge to a great dane), if I meet people in the woods where I'm walking I always recall and put him on a lead, I wouldn't like a dog of that size jumping on me if I didn't know it 9I'm not keen on them jumping on me even when I do know them), but the number of people I see with dogs that just allow them to run up to people is frightening. I think I've always been lucky with children not wanting to run up and just cuddle him, they always ask or their parents ask (I think his size may have something to do with this), but surprisingly enough toddlers always seem fascinated with him and he's bigger than most of them :)
I think you should have to take a test before you are allowed to own a dog as over enthusiastic/opinionated dogs + stupid owners = disaster for the dog.
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Children should be taught ignore dogs in public..... indeed they should be wary of them, enough not to be silly and approach them at all.

Lexie, I have not blamed this dog at all, if you read carefully. I do however blame the owner/handler. Why do you think I am blaming the dog?
 
Spook said:
Children should be taught ignore dogs in public..... indeed they should be wary of them, enough not to be silly and approach them at all.

Lexie, I have not blamed this dog at all, if you read carefully. I do however blame the owner/handler. Why do you think I am blaming the dog?
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Ok stop only blaming the owner and share the blame between owner and parents, not simply the owner.
 
Sorry, why blame the parents??? It says it was an "unprovoked" attack on a child walking home from school. Nowhere does it say the child approached the dog. You obviously don't have kids lexiedhb. And if it was such an innocent accidental injury, why did the owner leg it???
 
Ilovefoals said:
Sorry, why blame the parents??? It says it was an "unprovoked" attack on a child walking home from school. Nowhere does it say the child approached the dog. You obviously don't have kids lexiedhb. And if it was such an innocent accidental injury, why did the owner leg it???
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What has having kids got to do with the price of fish:confused:? Does having kids suddenly give you amazing magical insight into the events surrounding this? Is it a hormonal thing that happens?
 
Ilovefoals said:
No, but it does make you realise what's important in life!
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Ooooh I see. Amazing insight into the meaning of life, the universe and everything. No doubt it also includes a free crystal ball enabling one to make comment about things you didn't witness with total confidence, and a special course in 'patronising people who haven't yet reproduced, cos they just don't get what's important in life, yeah?' Something to look forward to.

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You are hilarious! I never said I'd witnessed the incident, I did however read the article properly which states it was an UNPROVOKED attack. So how lexiedhb can say it's the childs parents fault, is a mystery to me!!!
 
Ilovefoals said:
You are hilarious! I never said I'd witnessed the incident, I did however read the article properly which states it was an UNPROVOKED attack. So how lexiedhb can say it's the childs parents fault, is a mystery to me!!!
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Yes, I had surmised that you hadn't witnessed it, through my amazing powers of deduction. I am merely sceptical of the quality and accuracy of reporting in these incidents, and always wary of accepting news reports on face value. 'Unprovoked'.... hmm, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I wouldn't be so quick to judge from a report on the internet.

However, I haven't had children, so I don't have amazing mind powers... Although the OP has had children, I have met one of them and what a nice young man he is. Perhaps she missed the special mind powers course?
 
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