dog breeds

I have a miniature pinscher. High energy, not for everyone, I saw one at a show when I was 15 and was transfixed - 45 years and many much loved but thrust upon me dogs later I finally have one. He has exceeded all my hopes and is the best ever. Beautiful, elegant (they move like hackney ponies), affectionate, all this in a 12" package - but I am slightly biased!
 
Labradoodle! Ours is only 4 months old but is so intelligent. We chose the breed as we wanted something which was easily trainable and good with young kids, because we have an 11 month old son and I am not doggy (I'm a cat person!) so my (doggy) OH wanted something even I could teach ;) I've already taught her quite a few things but only because she's so incredibly clever. Although she has started so show a slightly different side... she's now pretending nown and again to not hear me for example! We're going to weekly obedience classes though so hopefully we'll stay on track. I hate naughty dogs so will not let her become one! She is great with our son though, so we seem to have chosen the right breed.
 
MagicMelon said:
Labradoodle! Ours is only 4 months old but is so intelligent. We chose the breed as we wanted something which was easily trainable and good with young kids, because we have an 11 month old son and I am not doggy (I'm a cat person!) so my (doggy) OH wanted something even I could teach ;) I've already taught her quite a few things but only because she's so incredibly clever. Although she has started so show a slightly different side... she's now pretending nown and again to not hear me for example! We're going to weekly obedience classes though so hopefully we'll stay on track. I hate naughty dogs so will not let her become one! She is great with our son though, so we seem to have chosen the right breed.
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Not a breed!
 
Two working springer spaniels, bred for flushing and retrieving game - used for exactly that.

Three Jack Russell Terriers, very handy for ratting, alerting me to the presence of people/birds/spiders/the invisible man, getting into places they really should not be and for keeping me company.

We also have a Chihuahua and three Chihuahua cross Yorkshire terriers at OH's mums - they are toy dogs and very friendly little people however I'm not convinced.
 
MagicMelon - genuine question, when you chose a Doodle, did you know about the Portuguese Water Dog? I have a puppy, and am quite fascinated by the breed, and wonder whether if someone had promoted them better as a breed, the Labradoodle might not have taken off in the same way, as the PWD seems to essentially have the same attributes but has been around for a long long time as a breed. I wonder if there are particular Doodle traits (in so far as anyway can predict what a crossbreed will be like) that the PWD doesn't offer, or whether its just that no one has ever heard of them?
In case anyone doesn't know what a PWD looks like this is them:
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This is mine:
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Japanese Akita (none mentioned so far):(..... A large ancient breed of dog (one of if not the largerst in the large breed cateogary), Spitz type dog that is an extremely powerful breed, fearless and naturally dominant, bred to hunt bears and boar and a family guardian dog, the akita was also used as a fighting breed (they have since been used for other purpose), they where crossed with mastiff to create a larger fighting dog. During war it is belived the largest akitas where bred with GSD's to create the American Akita.The Akita has webbed feet and is an excellent swimmer, The breed has a fierce guarding instict and although a great family guardian this breed is very intolerant of strangers within it's teritory and more alarming they are generally silent when guarding (so basically it's to late once your are in):p. This dog has an immense double coat of and a soft undercoat and a harsh, weatherproof top coat and can withstand extreme cold temperatures (they have been used to pull sleds and immense loads).
The Japanese Akita is definitely not the right breed for the average family looking for a pet dog:) but I love them:p

Rottweiler...Although a versatile breed used in recent times for many purposes, the Rottweiler is primarily one of the oldest, if not the oldest of herding breeds. A multi-faceted herding and stock protection dog, it is capable of working all kinds of livestock under a variety of conditions. (fantastic breed) fabulous guarding dog:)

My others have been mentioned...
Lurcher... (poor mans hunting dog/killer of anything moving out in open space:D but also a fab lazy pet depending on the mix):p

Cavalier... (Little spaniel) with equal if not more energy than a normal spaniel if given the opportunity) love hunting and flushing and make fab palcid little family pets.

Labrador... (mine only temporary) as can't be doing with this stupid breed:p they are useless and like to swim and be happy for no apparent reason:p:rolleyes:. Obs they have a purpose... To retrieve full stop.:D:p

Whippets...The most popular of all the sighthound breeds, the Whippet is a beguiling combination of gentle companion and keen sporting hound. They can also shine at racing, coursing, lure coursing, agility or obedience, not to mention putting a rabbit in the pot.:) alos make good bench surfers.:mad:

Pointer Wire Haired...A hunting breed.

Random X breed (just some thoughless idiots letting their dogs bonk for the sake of cash or because it has sexual organs) :D
 
ecrozier said:
MagicMelon - genuine question, when you chose a Doodle, did you know about the Portuguese Water Dog? I have a puppy, and am quite fascinated by the breed, and wonder whether if someone had promoted them better as a breed, the Labradoodle might not have taken off in the same way, as the PWD seems to essentially have the same attributes but has been around for a long long time as a breed. I wonder if there are particular Doodle traits (in so far as anyway can predict what a crossbreed will be like) that the PWD doesn't offer, or whether its just that no one has ever heard of them?
In case anyone doesn't know what a PWD looks like this is them:
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This is mine:
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Because Labradoodle sound silly and cool and some people class them as a breed not a mongrel and you can get them up the street or at the nearest puppy farm (no searching need be done).....I would rather have the health tested water dog thanks, esp if im splashing the cash), well smart):)
 
Lol Cayla, that's true, maybe the 'clever' name does attract some people!! And yes he did take some finding, but is well and truly health tested. Must confess, we've only had him a month or so, but he has totally and utterly won my heart, he's such a good boy, walks everywhere off lead, most of basic commands sorted already, especially recall. Just praying his teenage phase isn't too bad!!
 
MagicMelon said:
Labradoodle! Ours is only 4 months old but is so intelligent. We chose the breed as we wanted something which was easily trainable and good with young kids, because we have an 11 month old son and I am not doggy (I'm a cat person!) so my (doggy) OH wanted something even I could teach ;) I've already taught her quite a few things but only because she's so incredibly clever. Although she has started so show a slightly different side... she's now pretending nown and again to not hear me for example! We're going to weekly obedience classes though so hopefully we'll stay on track. I hate naughty dogs so will not let her become one! She is great with our son though, so we seem to have chosen the right breed.
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An over priced mongrel
 
Old English sheep dog- sheep drover, trot for miles pushing sheep to market. Nothing like the OES we see today though. My one has driven sheep and was very natural about it.

Also have a springer x lab, fantastic cross in my eyes very versatile gundog.

And a Rottweiler x flat coat, never ever want to fine accross this cross again, as lovely as he is, he never slows down he is a total clown non stop and has very selective re call.
 
Lab X Whippet (AKA whipadore!) - sorry, couldn't resist ;)!
Resulted from an accidental mating (Nowt to do with me). Many whippet features... sight hound, extra sofa cushion/lap dog, likes 2 walks a day, then lazes about the rest of the time! Also, has the ability to have the greed of the lab, but can't retrieve for love nor money :rolleyes: Useless guard dog, loves everyone, total wimp in wet weather (you know, the drowned rat look?) but has the clever ability of skinning herself while 'rabbiting' in hedges and woodlands. Stitch up jobs R US!!
BUT, she is by far the best family pooch and adores being with the kids.. wouldn't swap her for anything.
 
Pyrenean mountain dog. Very loyal and brilliant guard dog, but lovely with the family and those he knows. Needs a very large area to live in as he is enormous and masses of energy. Also a fat Dalmatian who thinks he is a lap dog and is very sweet.
 
Patterdale terrier, rough coated edition. Bred for killing vermin in rough terrain and all weathers. Ours must be broken, she washes rabbit's ears and finds golf balls.
 
Ok, this post is becoming a little unpleasant. I was corrected, rudely, and I went back and looked at my sources .. Not vet and stand by what I said. As for the comment that the labradoodle is an overpriced mongrel...could you not have worded this more kindly? Every breed started off as a "mongrel" .

Can we please apply the good manners this forum normally shows and behave as you would do if you were meeting someone face to face and not behind the annonymous keyboard.
 
Luci07 said:
Ok, this post is becoming a little unpleasant. I was corrected, rudely, and I went back and looked at my sources .. Not vet and stand by what I said. As for the comment that the labradoodle is an overpriced mongrel...could you not have worded this more kindly? Every breed started off as a "mongrel" .

Can we please apply the good manners this forum normally shows and behave as you would do if you were meeting someone face to face and not behind the annonymous keyboard.
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You were not corrected rudely - just because you couldn't see it as a joke doesn't make it rude.
Can you quote your sources? There was probably some Dalmation used across all the UK bull breeds to get white but they are not the cause of tummy spots which are down to the piebald gene that most staffies (& many other breeds ) have.
BTW not all breeds started as mongrels -most started as strains or landrace groups nad none of the breeds that did start by crossing were called breeds until they had bred true for multiple generations unlike the current designer fad where any crossbreed is given a "breed name" purely to sell at an inflated price - often with dubious claims.
 
MM has already said she is 'not a dog person' so was not to know that a 'Doodle, or a 'Poo or whatever is a type/crossbreed rather than an actual breed, in the same way as someone who is not horsey would not know that a hunter or an ISH is a type or mix of breeds rather than a breed.
 
Mongrel with a fair amount of Staff in it. Funny, busy, looks the part but is generally a scaredy cat, great cuddle monster, reactive to dogs......
 
s4sugar said:
You were not corrected rudely - just because you couldn't see it as a joke doesn't make it rude.
Can you quote your sources? There was probably some Dalmation used across all the UK bull breeds to get white but they are not the cause of tummy spots which are down to the piebald gene that most staffies (& many other breeds ) have.
BTW not all breeds started as mongrels -most started as strains or landrace groups nad none of the breeds that did start by crossing were called breeds until they had bred true for multiple generations unlike the current designer fad where any crossbreed is given a "breed name" purely to sell at an inflated price - often with dubious claims.
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If knowing and stating breed history is rude..guilty then!Cannot abide ignorant vets spouting on about pedigree dogs,once upon a time I believed them too.But after fifty years with bull terriers and knowing a lot about other breeds histories as well,then ,sorry,I will pipe up.As for over priced mongrels,well a lot of people cross wonderful little Border Terriers with poodles,I could NEVER consider doing that to what I consider the very best small family country dog.As for calling these mongrels silly invented names WTF?? The other point to consider about these dogs is that being mongrels no breed specific rescue is in place to help them if they need help,a safety net for pedigrees is there,but not for mongrels.I am NOT anti mongrel,my first dog was one,he was my childhood best friend ,but I AM anti silly names and over pricing.It needs to stop.
 
CaveCanem said:
MM has already said she is 'not a dog person' so was not to know that a 'Doodle, or a 'Poo or whatever is a type/crossbreed rather than an actual breed, in the same way as someone who is not horsey would not know that a hunter or an ISH is a type or mix of breeds rather than a breed.
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I was about to be offended then at you saying I was not a dog person, then realised you were referring to Magic Melon.:p
 
Saluki - probably one of, if not the oldest breed of dog there is (recent excavations of the Sumerian empire (7,000-6,000 B.C.) have unearthed carvings of dogs with a striking resemblance to the Saluki). They are also known as Gazelle Hounds, this is because they were used by hunters to hunt Gazelle (so super fast), independently of the huntsman and in conjunction with the hunters hawk, ie; the hawk would 'spot' the quarry and then the saluki would course the prey and kill it.

The breed's long history is fascinating. The Saluki was not only the preferred hunting dog of kings, but also (still is) the nomadic Bedouin people's highly esteemed hunting dog. The tradition was, that one never sold a Saluki but instead gave them away as treasured gifts to very special persons or perhaps in exchange for a couple of wives, horses or camels etc.!

Our Saluki is a particular lover of sofas or armchairs and when it's mealtime for my toddlers as it rains food!

We took him to his first show on Monday and he not only won his hound class but Best In Show, so we're very proud of him.

We also have a three legged saluki x sloughi lurcher (Sloughi's are yet another ancient breed), who is a rescue and we love him to bits.
 
s4sugar said:
You were not corrected rudely - just because you couldn't see it as a joke doesn't make it rude.
Can you quote your sources? There was probably some Dalmation used across all the UK bull breeds to get white but they are not the cause of tummy spots which are down to the piebald gene that most staffies (& many other breeds ) have.
BTW not all breeds started as mongrels -most started as strains or landrace groups nad none of the breeds that did start by crossing were called breeds until they had bred true for multiple generations unlike the current designer fad where any crossbreed is given a "breed name" purely to sell at an inflated price - often with dubious claims.
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Joke? That is not how it came across at all. Maybe you could think before typing. It came across as sharp, contradictory and nasty.

Not what I call a joke.
 
Luci07 said:
Joke? That is not how it came across at all. Maybe you could think before typing. It came across as sharp, contradictory and nasty.

Not what I call a joke.
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No the joke is probably that people fall for such misinformation................as well as the doodle rubbish.
 
3 flatcoats. Bed to generally make fun and lick things. 1 cocker. Bred to be a sanity saver for flatcoat owners.

Ok. So maybe they are useful in other areas but this is how they see it. :D
 
German Shepherd - already perfectly described
Lakeland x Patterdale x Border - should be a nightmare but she is absolutely delightful.
JRT - bred to ignore me and poo under the kitchen table (but then he is 17)

Would just like to say that some of the comments in this thread could be classed as bordering on rude. Insulting my dogs is as bad as insulting my daughter. I am pretty thick skinned but I can understand how some might be upset.

Presumably we are all on here because we have common interests. Namely horses and dogs so let's play nicely! :D
 
This reply is only about vets and their breed specific knowledge. My vets are happy to say that breeders know more about their breeds than they (my vets) do. My vet rang me up one day to tell me had clients on their way for an appt. & that they had paid a lot of money for it but he cldnt remember what breed it was. I told him to describe it, & once he had done so, I was able to tell him it was probably an Italian Spinone. Later in the day, I had another phone call to say 'Thank you, it was an I.S'. They didn't know what my Petit Basset Griffin Vendeen was but, they didn't mind admitting it.
The dog people on here who show, will probably remember the statement made by a certain vet who was at Crufts, announcing to a huge viewing audience that the Labradoodle was a perfect cross because it halved the breed problems. He should/must have known that the Labrador and the Poodle share many problems, therefore, surely, the problems are being doubled up on, not halved:rolleyes:
I have owned many different breeds over the years but currently have 3 Chinese Cresteds, 1 of which is 18. I had one lady come up to me whilst out walking to tell me I was a disgusting owner who should be reported to the RSPCA for taking out dogs with such bad mange!
 
s4sugar said:
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S4Sugar - HOW is a labradoodle NOT a breed. Of course it is, its a cross between a labrador and a poodle, pretty simple I'd say. No, she's not a purebred but a crossbred. So what? She still HAS a certain breeding in her. Surely a mongrel is like a heinz 57 horse as in you dont know its breeding? And why refer to "doodle rubbish" at one point - WTF, have you even met one?! They're a very nice mix at the end of the day!

ecrozier - Yes, we did research the breed you mention. The only reason we didnt go much further was simply because we couldn't find any available anywhere within a 4 hour drive of us ;) Must say, yours is gorgeous!

CAYLA - I did not get our labradoodle because "its cool". I'm actually embarassed by the name because its is silly, doesn't make her any less of a great dog though. I got one because everywhere we looked they came out top for being easy to train and very good with children and cats which is what we needed, we also have friend recommendations. And funny you should say you can get them up the street or wherever, because we had to search high and low and ended up having to drive 4 hours each way to pick our one up.

East Kent - Ok, you're against the "silly names". Fine, I agree my labradoodles name is silly but I didnt name it. Not sure why you're having such a strop - who cares less WHAT the dog is called at the end of the day. Surely all that matters is that the end result is a lovely pet for someone?! There's far worse going on in the dog world such as pedigree dogs getting so overly bred that they suffer such horrific problems... So stop slagging of cross breeds such as labradoodles!
 
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At the end of the day......what matters to me is (indiscriminate breeding)" not sure if you have I met one"? was to me? but yes (met loads, I have one in day boarding and 2 full boarding (2 have horrendous hip dysplasia) , and 2 are loopey, one I grant you is lovely, a calm dog (he is 5 though) but his hips/legs are atrocious! (by the way im as truthful on here as at home, I tell the owners/clients I don't agree with designer crossing for dosh and the lies sold with them and have managed to educate them.
We have also rehomed a lot of lab x poodles from our rescue (mainly as to high energy and most come ina right state (un groomed), funnily enough non healthy to date!.

Easy to train and good family pets (my obs question to this is) you could have gotten a huge range of breeds to suit those needs from health tested parents for the money you paid/less, so still im thinking its the silly names doing it im afraid.:(
Not sure where you live, but I could travel 2 mins up the road in 2 direction to a back street breeder for a designer poodle x lab.

Im sure you dog is lovely but there is a bigger picture!
 
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MagicMelon said:
S4Sugar - HOW is a labradoodle NOT a breed. Of course it is, its a cross between a labrador and a poodle, pretty simple I'd say. No, she's not a purebred but a crossbred. So what? She still HAS a certain breeding in her. Surely a mongrel is like a heinz 57 horse as in you dont know its breeding? And why refer to "doodle rubbish" at one point - WTF, have you even met one?! They're a very nice mix at the end of the day!


East Kent - Ok, you're against the "silly names". Fine, I agree my labradoodles name is silly but I didnt name it. Not sure why you're having such a strop - who cares less WHAT the dog is called at the end of the day. Surely all that matters is that the end result is a lovely pet for someone?! There's far worse going on in the dog world such as pedigree dogs getting so overly bred that they suffer such horrific problems... So stop slagging of cross breeds such as labradoodles!
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You need to check your own posts -how can a cross breed be a breed.
You say they are a nice mix -have you ever met one with sebacious addenitis, PRA or HD? I have (2 in the same dog). Have you met one with both coats? Impossible to keep brushed when more than an inch long. Moulting - some can shed worse than the worst shedding lab.

Why did you not get a poodle or one of the other water dogs? There are quite a few. The cross was originally done as a quick fix when somone had no large poodles or curly coat retrievers within thousands of miles. The experiment was a failure but the puppy farmers soon jumped on the bandwagon.

TBH anyone buying a mutt for more than a rescue donation is a sucker.
 
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