Dog food. Again!!

[Clodagh]

Tawny is now a pet pooch. A happy pet pooch who is sounder, more affectionate and playful so all good. Does she really need to be on rocketfuel now? She gets bad ears and anal glands on anything with sugarbeet pulp in, according to my unscientific experimentations. I personally don't like dealing with the giant whippy poos produced with cheap food.
Cost wise I'm happy to keep her on MWH and she looks amazing. My Mum though said that she doesn't need the protein now and I should dial it back.

I've also put Ffee on it as she was licking her bottom a lot and it seems to have helped, but she is already a hyperactive PITA and is it going to make her worse?

I'm sure Druid on here said the high protein/high energy thing was not true. Did I dream that?
I'm not doing raw.

Thank you for any advice. I remember CC asking the same fairly recently?

 

[CorvusCorax]

I put both my retired males onto Autarky Mature Lite salmon and they look fabulous and it's half the price of the JWB I was feeding. Poos were a bit explosive during the changeover but are great now.
I accidentally fed it to my puppy for fortnight and she also looked fabulous

 

[skinnydipper]

Tawny is now a pet pooch. A happy pet pooch who is sounder, more affectionate and playful so all good. Does she really need to be on rocketfuel now? She gets bad ears and anal glands on anything with sugarbeet pulp in, according to my unscientific experimentations. I personally don't like dealing with the giant whippy poos produced with cheap food.
Cost wise I'm happy to keep her on MWH and she looks amazing. My Mum though said that she doesn't need the protein now and I should dial it back.

I've also put Ffee on it as she was licking her bottom a lot and it seems to have helped, but she is already a hyperactive PITA and is it going to make her worse?

I'm sure Druid on here said the high protein/high energy thing was not true. Did I dream that?
I'm not doing raw.

Thank you for any advice. I remember CC asking the same fairly recently?

If I were you I would continue giving her the high quality food she is currently on.

It isn't true that dogs need less protein as they age. I read up on it when an elderly dog had slightly reduced renal function.

From an old post of mine

High protein diets cause renal failure
Fallacy. There is no scientific basis for this statement. Nor is there is evidence that dietary protein intake should be restricted in older dogs or cats to "take the workload off of the kidneys". In fact, studies of laboratory beagles showed that older beagles required higher dietary protein intake to maintain nitrogen balance and muscle mass than younger beagles.

from here: https://www.dvm360.com/view/facts-fallacies-and-future-pet-nutrition-proceedings

and this might interest you, written by a vet:

So what does that mean for the older dog? It means that you should not restrict feeding high quality protein to older dogs just because they are older. There is even some valid research that indicates older dogs may need a higher percentage of protein in their diets than they required during middle age.

https://www.petmd.com/dog/nutrition/evr_dg_focusing_on_protein_in_the_diet

 

[Clodagh]

Thank you very much, that has set my mind at rest.

 

[Clodagh]

I put both my retired males onto Autarky Mature Lite salmon and they look fabulous and it's half the price of the JWB I was feeding. Poos were a bit explosive during the changeover but are great now.
I accidentally fed it to my puppy for fortnight and she also looked fabulous

I got super excited by the price, and then read the ingredients, it has beet pulp in it. Honestly I am going to put the blacks on it for a bag or two and see how they do though.

 

[Chiffy]

I feed Simpsons Sensitive Salmon and Potato. It’s a great food , dogs love it and do well but it does have some beet pulp. My dogs were horrendous on MWH, couldn’t get on with it at all. Poos were disgusting! All perfect now .

 

[Moobli]

My shepherds and all the sheepdogs are on Simpsons Premium (I vary the "flavour") and all do extremely well on it. I am with SD though and if your dogs do well on their current food then I would keep them on it.

 

[SAujla]

I feed Simpsons Sensitive Salmon and Potato. It’s a great food , dogs love it and do well but it does have some beet pulp. My dogs were horrendous on MWH, couldn’t get on with it at all. Poos were disgusting! All perfect now .

Did you use the puppy version and then transferr to the adult? Sorry to go away from the op question

 

[Thistle]

Millies do all sorts from 40% meat to 80% meat so you can alter to suit her needs and your budget. Do you drop the food slightly now for a while anyway (at least until you start dogging in?)

 

[splashgirl45]

i have just changed my terriers on to wolfworthy and so far have been pleased with it...its 80% meat and 20% veg... poos fine, was feeding jwb but decided i wanted to try raw but without the hassle of having frozen stuff in the freezer as i really need the freezer for my food...

 

[Clodagh]

Millies do all sorts from 40% meat to 80% meat so you can alter to suit her needs and your budget. Do you drop the food slightly now for a while anyway (at least until you start dogging in?)

Trouble with their low meat is it is awash with peas and legumes, which worries me. No I don't generally change food, although I do mix and match more in summer than in winter, having been told that all dog food was deficient in one area (or more) so swap manufacturers sometimes to mix it up a bit. The others are on Wolf of Wilderness but that didn't suit Miss Medically Challenged Fannypants.

 

[Clodagh]

i have just changed my terriers on to wolfworthy and so far have been pleased with it...its 80% meat and 20% veg... poos fine, was feeding jwb but decided i wanted to try raw but without the hassle of having frozen stuff in the freezer as i really need the freezer for my food...

I get ads for that in my FB feed but thought it was probably really expensive.

 

[splashgirl45]

its not cheap but my terriers are both tiny . its £44 for 7.5kg bag, i was paying £52 for jwb 15kg bag but they dont need as much wolfworthy. i particularly wanted a dog food that was produced in the uk so that cut down my choice. i looked on the all about dog food site to compare...

 

[Clodagh]

its not cheap but my terriers are both tiny . its £44 for 7.5kg bag, i was paying £52 for jwb 15kg bag but they dont need as much wolfworthy. i particularly wanted a dog food that was produced in the uk so that cut down my choice. i looked on the all about dog food site to compare...

Now I would love another UK based one, I must admit. Was loathe to say that on here! You're so brave!

 

[splashgirl45]

why? im british and buy british sourced goods whenever i can, whats wrong with that.....

 

[Clodagh]

why? im british and buy british sourced goods whenever i can, whats wrong with that.....

Don’t get me wrong, so do I.

 

[druid]

Yep, high protein doesn't mean high energy but high activity dogs need plenty of quality protein so there's a misconception as active/working feeds tend to be higher in protein (and calories). Dogs literally just pee out excess proteins.

Skinners Sensitive Lamb and Rice might work for you, no beetpulp, British and lower octane than MWH....and better customer service, plus they heavily support shooting/gundog sports so win win in my world.

 

[maisie06]

Tawny is now a pet pooch. A happy pet pooch who is sounder, more affectionate and playful so all good. Does she really need to be on rocketfuel now? She gets bad ears and anal glands on anything with sugarbeet pulp in, according to my unscientific experimentations. I personally don't like dealing with the giant whippy poos produced with cheap food.
Cost wise I'm happy to keep her on MWH and she looks amazing. My Mum though said that she doesn't need the protein now and I should dial it back.

I've also put Ffee on it as she was licking her bottom a lot and it seems to have helped, but she is already a hyperactive PITA and is it going to make her worse?

I'm sure Druid on here said the high protein/high energy thing was not true. Did I dream that?
I'm not doing raw.

Thank you for any advice. I remember CC asking the same fairly recently?

I always run by the adage of "if it aint broke don't fix it!" if she's doing well on the food leave her on it, you can always cut the quantities down and add a little veg to bulk up and make her less hungry only if she needs it - would you normally change her food in the off season? I find it's rarely the protien that makes them hyper anyway, and you strike me as an owner that keeps the dogs busy working or not! My 2 spanners have either Carnilove or Eden both over 35% protien, neither are unmanageable on it, the springer is bred to Field trial so is like a mountain goat on speed but he settles down well in the house and is trainable - well as much as a spanner can be!!

 

[Clodagh]

Skinners Sensitive Lamb and Rice might work for you, no beetpulp, British and lower octane than MWH....and better customer service, plus they heavily support shooting/gundog sports so win win in my world.

I used to feed Skinners but could have sworn it had beet in it, I see it doesn't though. But only the lamb, I think I fed the salmon and the turkey in the past and T got bad ears and Brandy got scurf so I stopped. I will try the lamb one though now, thank you. And its made in the next county!

 

[Clodagh]

I always run by the adage of "if it aint broke don't fix it!" if she's doing well on the food leave her on it, you can always cut the quantities down and add a little veg to bulk up and make her less hungry only if she needs it - would you normally change her food in the off season? I find it's rarely the protien that makes them hyper anyway, and you strike me as an owner that keeps the dogs busy working or not! My 2 spanners have either Carnilove or Eden both over 35% protien, neither are unmanageable on it, the springer is bred to Field trial so is like a mountain goat on speed but he settles down well in the house and is trainable - well as much as a spanner can be!!

I sometimes feed the odd bag of something else, but yes they are very active anyway and mainly I stick with the same thing. I am going to try a few others from on here and see how we get on.
Interesting (to me) Ffee poos in ther house quite often, maybe weekly, overnight. Since I put her on MWH that has stopped. Delight! Worth the extra money, clearing up a morning pile is no fun.

 

[Moobli]

Simpsons Premium is also a UK company and has higher quality ingredients than Skinners. I tried Skinners once about ten years ago but wasn't particularly impressed.

 

[Clodagh]

Simpsons Premium is also a UK company and has higher quality ingredients than Skinners. I tried Skinners once about ten years ago but wasn't particularly impressed.

The dreaded beet pulp again though. (In the lamb one)

 

[druid]

I think Simpsons all have beet pulp bar the 80/20 which is more expensive than the MWH equivalent

 

[Clodagh]

I think Simpsons all have beet pulp bar the 80/20 which is more expensive than the MWH equivalent

How do you know all that!? Or did you Google!? ?

 

[druid]

How do you know all that!? Or did you Google!? ?

I do some nutrition stuff - I happened to have been looking at removing beetpulp and barley from a diet recently. If I remember right the allaboutdogfood website lets you search by ingredient? I'm not a big fan of their rating system or the guy who runs it but that feature is useful if it still exists

 

[Clodagh]

I do some nutrition stuff - I happened to have been looking at removing beetpulp and barley from a diet recently. If I remember right the allaboutdogfood website lets you search by ingredient? I'm not a big fan of their rating system or the guy who runs it but that feature is useful if it still exists

Well you are very useful. Can I ask why you say no to beet pulp?

 

[druid]

We were looking for a low bulk food for a dog with GI issues and a previous resection/anastomosis.