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Quick sense check please - report yes/no?

Rural location, house with wrap around garden (not fenced) that is surrounded by farmland.

Public footpath runs right by the perimeter of the house garden.

House has owned Dog 1 for years. Dog 1 is a black GSD type. I've had a number of encounters with it over the years whereby it rushes out onto the footpath.
Initially it was a little intimidating but the dog always stopped a few feet away, never acts aggressively, and if the owners actually notice it recalls well.
So I've let it be.

House has recently acquired Dog 2. Dog 2 is a large, young black male. At a guess I'd say either Rottie or a Mastiff crossed with a lab.
I had a reasonably scary encounter with it a couple of weeks ago whereby both dogs rushed at me (my 2 on leads), Dog 1 a little more intent than he would be on his own, but quickly backed off.
Dog 2 was completely out of control, intimidating BUT ultimately was just boisterous and there wasn't any sign of aggression.
My 2 dogs shit scared, Mannie just wanted to scarper, but the spanners response in that sort of situation is to snap - so to prevent her doing that (and potentially causing Dog 2 to retaliate) I put myself between Dog 2 and mine and just kept circling while Dog 2 literally jumped all over my back. Owner pathetically trying to get dog very unsuccessfully. A couple of times I stuck out my leg in a semi kick to try and keep the dog off me. I eventually caught the dog, handed it back to the owner, and exchanged a few cross words.

Essentially my position was dog out of control on public footpath. His position was the agricultural land is his garden and dog perfectly entitled to roam free.
I told him I expected the dog to be fenced in and if it happened again I'd report it.

Well it happened again tonight.

Dog 2, less boisterous this time and was wearing some form of remotely controlled collar.

Maybe I would have let it go given the dog was noticeably less frantic, but the owner (whilst we were exchanging some sharp words) blurted he was a rescue and had previously bitten someone.
So they may have just scored an own goal.

Is this something a dog warden has any say in? There is no reason to think it's a problem dog, provided it's adequately fenced in!
 

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Quick sense check please - report yes/no?

Rural location, house with wrap around garden (not fenced) that is surrounded by farmland.

Public footpath runs right by the perimeter of the house garden.

House has owned Dog 1 for years. Dog 1 is a black GSD type. I've had a number of encounters with it over the years whereby it rushes out onto the footpath.
Initially it was a little intimidating but the dog always stopped a few feet away, never acts aggressively, and if the owners actually notice it recalls well.
So I've let it be.

House has recently acquired Dog 2. Dog 2 is a large, young black male. At a guess I'd say either Rottie or a Mastiff crossed with a lab.
I had a reasonably scary encounter with it a couple of weeks ago whereby both dogs rushed at me (my 2 on leads), Dog 1 a little more intent than he would be on his own, but quickly backed off.
Dog 2 was completely out of control, intimidating BUT ultimately was just boisterous and there wasn't any sign of aggression.
My 2 dogs shit scared, Mannie just wanted to scarper, but the spanners response in that sort of situation is to snap - so to prevent her doing that (and potentially causing Dog 2 to retaliate) I put myself between Dog 2 and mine and just kept circling while Dog 2 literally jumped all over my back. Owner pathetically trying to get dog very unsuccessfully. A couple of times I stuck out my leg in a semi kick to try and keep the dog off me. I eventually caught the dog, handed it back to the owner, and exchanged a few cross words.

Essentially my position was dog out of control on public footpath. His position was the agricultural land is his garden and dog perfectly entitled to roam free.
I told him I expected the dog to be fenced in and if it happened again I'd report it.

Well it happened again tonight.

Dog 2, less boisterous this time and was wearing some form of remotely controlled collar.

Maybe I would have let it go given the dog was noticeably less frantic, but the owner (whilst we were exchanging some sharp words) blurted he was a rescue and had previously bitten someone.
So they may have just scored an own goal.

Is this something a dog warden has any say in? There is no reason to think it's a problem dog, provided it's adequately fenced in!
I would say yes, as you were intimidated.
And the owner is a dick.
We lived on a farm with a public footpath running through the yard. Our dogs were not allowed free range and if we were out there with them and a walker came past they were sat to one side.
 

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As others have said, dog out of control in public place (public footpath). Def report it to council via their Animal welfare dept.
If you can wear a cam when using that route it will really aid the dog warden. All they can do at present is visit and advise on legal rights of users of public footpath and householders responsibilities.

Good luck!
 

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As others have said, dog out of control in public place (public footpath). Def report it to council via their Animal welfare dept.
If you can wear a cam when using that route it will really aid the dog warden. All they can do at present is visit and advise on legal rights of users of public footpath and householders responsibilities.

Good luck!

Thanks everyone!

TFF - tbh that’s all I want - someone to point out their responsibility.

I suppose the initial fright in encounter 1 plus their attitude has really annoyed me.

Had it just been tonight’s encounter with a bit of apology/humility I wouldn’t be considering reporting.

Just needed a sense check to make sure I wasn’t being over emotional and unreasonable
 

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Thanks everyone!

TFF - tbh that’s all I want - someone to point out their responsibility.

I suppose the initial fright in encounter 1 plus their attitude has really annoyed me.

Had it just been tonight’s encounter with a bit of apology/humility I wouldn’t be considering reporting.

Just needed a sense check to make sure I wasn’t being over emotional and unreasonable
If you have no joy via council dept, then try police, more so if you have any community beat officers assigned to the area. (We have, but we only see them 3 or 4 times a year at local community centre when hosting a 'meet us' session lol)
 

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We have an access way over our property to another farmer's land, one of our dogs is extremely reactive to strangers but seems quite happy with other dogs. Either way we have ensured both our dogs are very well fenced off away from the access way and are never under any circumstances allowed within biting distance of it. If the stroppy one did ever bite she would not be long around when she is reported to the local dog warden so it is for our dog's safety too.

Your situation sounds very scary and I cannot get my head around why the guy doesn't do something to keep his dogs and other people and their dogs safe. I would definitely report.
 
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