Dog weeing and pooing overnight!! Help

Thought I would give you all a little up date on this post! It seemed to go off on a tangent about feeding lol!
I have taken on board most of the advice that you gave, although I have still not tried the crate idea. I just really want to make this a last resort.
Unfortunately the problem of the wee and poo over night has not got any better but she is clean during the day. Whereas when I used to come from work, she would have messed, weed, over the last week or so this has stopped! So that is very good. The amount of time she is at home when I am at work varies but can be anything up to 5/6 hours! As I said before when I am at home, there is no problem, she makes sure that she gets my attention to let her out or she barks at the back door to get my attention.
I have made sure that when I let her out in the evening just before bedtime, that I go out with her to make sure that she has a wee and does not just stand near the back door as soon as I close it!
It has still not made any difference. I even witnessed her going for a poo when I let her out at bedtime but in the morning when I came down, she had done another poo and three wees!!! Although instead of telling her she had been a bad girl, I basically ignored it. Just let her out without any fuss, i.e cuddles, stroking etc. Which is the opposite of the fuss she gets made of her when she has been clean during the day!
It looks like I may have to take the crate option which I really dont want to do.
This may sound like a daft question but once I have gone done that route with the crate overnight. Will I have to stick to that permanently or will it be possible to just leave the door open and then she will have the option. Sorry I am not very knowledgable about crate training.
I have another puppy arriving in 5/6 weeks, so I would really really like to be making some head way with this by the time she comes! I will then probably use the same method with her!
Sorry this has turned out far longer than I had wanted! Sorry all.
As I am still new on here not sure of all the sayings but I suggest something along the lines of hot choccy with squirty cream and a walnut whip in order for those that have stuck with this post!!!!!:eek: :D:D:confused:
 
Why are you so worried about the crate? From the dog's point of view the crate is NOT a punishment or a prison, it's a safe place to retire to and mimicks the kind of conditions the puppy would have had in the wild (a small lair to retreat to). Make sure you introduce the crate correctly, i.e. do not force her in there, allow her to get used to it graduall over a period of time, do not shut her in at first, give her treats in there, etc. and it is more than likely to solve all your house training problems.

You may find that a variety of issues get worse/regress with a new puppy. The new puppy is bound to have accidents and this may set off your older puppy, recall may be more difficult and the two may egg each other on to greater mischief. If you can spend a lot of time with each dog on its own, training and working on individual behaviours.
 
We had asimilar problemwith our jrtx rescue dog. She messed at night and inthe day at times. We were advised onhere to try crating her. I was very reluctant as I didn't like the idea. However it was the best thing we did. She s now clean most of the time. After about 3 or 4 months she no longer needs to be crated at night. We still crate her when out,but are trying to wean her off this
 
You would not have to use the crate forever, you would be teaching her to hold once more and then you could gradually phase it out (never be to hasty to do that)
If you would like a crate guide and a puppy guide for the new arrival Pm me your e.mail and I will send you one.

All you need do for now is purchase a crate (not a huge one) put it up, cover it with a blanket and put a lovely comfy bed in there leave the door open and let her explore for a week or so and get used it jsut being there before you even start with the positive associations, you may be surprised to find she will take herself in there before you even start with the routine:)
 
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