Dogs at Burghley

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Well...for the first time in what feels forever I was actually at XC and didn't see ANY loose dogs! Did I miss any?

What I did see though was hundreds of people getting annoyed with their dogs because they barked and in some cases for no apparent reason and were yanking them back on the lead. Makes me cross! If you're going to do that, use a harness, not yank your dogs neck off. Grrr
 
Yes there was a lurcher type chased a horse (I am completely dense and can't remember which rider/fence!) over at least 2 fences. :( Was tackled by a steward (I think!) with a spare lead and dragged back to owner, who I hope was given a good *******ing.

First time I've seen a dog loose on a xc up close and it was horrid, it looked so close to everyone going arse over tit :mad: :(
 
Ah damn - it seemed so close to having a dog-indcident free Burghley!

I saw some woman sitting on the floor not holding onto a lead - was going to march over and tell her off! I think they should start saying any loose dogs - the owners will be asked to leave immediately.

Dogs in the shopping area after the end - that was the worst! Its like trying to walk in the station at rush hour with people and their wheely suitcases!
 
It was Emily Llewellyn and Pardon Me that were chased, could have been very nasty - both horse and rider remained completely focused on the job in hand though - I take my hat off to them. xx
 
I would be so peed off as a rider. I saw the other year at the HSBC Maltings jump a little terrier chase a horse the whole circuit round. Must be so distracting
 
whizzica said:
It was Emily Llewellyn and Pardon Me that were chased, could have been very nasty - both horse and rider remained completely focused on the job in hand though - I take my hat off to them. xx
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Just watched that on burghley.tv - horse and rider did so well to concentrate and ignore the dog.

Perhaps dogs should be banned from these events? It seems every event there is always one dog that gets loose and endangers riders/ horses and their own lives getting on the course.
 
Dogs are so annoying at these events! However, if they were banned, it would be irratating for people with good dogs. My dog would never chase a horse, or bark (Probably because she's so old) but I do like to take her to horse shows and she's never caused any problems.

Dogs are a problem anywhere that horses go, I find. I was recently chased on Holkam beach! The horse I was riding kicked out and told it's who's boss. It's owner certainly wasn't!!
 
Well dogs chase, it's the owners that need a good belting, not the poor dogs when they eventually come back. That's what makes me most angry, misplaced blame.
 
Well on Thursday, (just outside the dog aromatherapy shop:confused:) in the shop walk bit a dog had projectile diahorrea - it was stinking, and completely uncleanable on the carpeted area. You'd never seen a place empty so quickly. I wish they were banned from there.
 
BoolavogueDC said:
Well dogs chase, it's the owners that need a good belting, not the poor dogs when they eventually come back. That's what makes me most angry, misplaced blame.
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True. If you can't control your dog - don't take it. Plus, why take your dog if it will yap at every horse it see's? Its illogical.

Our dog (no longer with us), wouldn't have barked...but he would have cried and cried because he would've been bored!
 
Elbie said:
What I did see though was hundreds of people getting annoyed with their dogs because they barked and in some cases for no apparent reason and were yanking them back on the lead. Makes me cross! If you're going to do that, use a harness, not yank your dogs neck off. Grrr
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Yanking a dog on the neck and yanking a dog around the shoulders/elbows/spine differs how, exactly? At least a collar puts pressure on the part of the body where the noise is emanating from. Agree to an extent that any type of yanking, on a certain type of dog, will agitate it further.
 
Sorry, was an early morning half asleep rant. Most of the yanking was to get them nearer or because the dog was pulling. I was under the assumption a harness is better to use than a collar as it's easier to control the dog.

Regarding the barking, I don't see how yanking a dog round the neck is an appropriate action to take. I saw a man yank his little dog back and the dog actually came off the floor and flipped. If your dog barks at horses, don't take it to a horse event then get cross with it.
 
In a harness, the dog has a *lot* more freedom to move it's head and to look at and focus on and fixate on certain things and to bark - think about it, the whole area is free to move, I won't go into a long, boring, explanation, but I use a very wide, thick padded collar on my dog in training for the sport that we do because if I put a harness on him I would have very little control over him :o
If it is control you want, I would use a collar, every time, or a head collar.

If you just yank and yank and yank, with no warning or command or correction or without trying to engage with the dog or offer a distraction or a better option...then yes, you're just yanking a dog on the neck.

Agree though, taking certain dogs to these events can completely blow their brains and they would be better off at home.
 
Not Burghley but up at Blair last month I ended up having to untangle a dog on behalf of it's owner countless times or it would have strangled itself. The guy who had the dog couldn't care less, he was just sitting on his wee chair letting the dog carry on.
 
I don't think I saw one happy dog there yesterday, but a hell of a lot of tired, nervous and downright overwhelmed dogs, and a lot of useless owners. Particularly liked the owner who was laughing over the fact her dog recognised the course clearing whistle meant a horse was on its way, and started barking, yelping and trying to get loose from that point.
 
We saw a red and white long haired lurcher-type dog loose and chasing an early running horse from the last water to the jubilee leap (I think it's called).

I'm not a doggy person but we took my friend's Patterdale X rescue dog with us and she had a thoroughly lovely time pottering round the course at her own speed (slow!) with my OH. We walk in the reverse direction so there are few crowds to deal with, she had a drink and snack everytime we did and was utterly chilled all day. She did sleep well last night.

We took her again today and she was equally good and happy but a bit fed up with the rain.
 
I took my dog to Burghley yesterday, and he was so well behaved. He is very quiet, walks nicely on the lead and doesn't bark or pull. He just lies down each time we stopped to watch the riders.

I don't think dogs should be banned - they are part of the equestrian life. However I do think that people shouldn't take unrulely dogs with them, and pay attention to them if they do take them.
 
one day there will be a very serious accident. Some dogs are nothing but a nuisance, getting trodden on and crapping everywhere, yapping and leaping around, the stewards should ask the most badly behaved ones to be removed from the grounds to start with and if that doesn't work a blanket ban of dogs is a must.
 
We have two dogs . . . and we only ever take one of them to horsey type events b/c the other is too neurotic, sensitive and highly-strung to deal with that many other people, dogs and horses without barking, lunging or trying to protect himself by taking a chunk out of a dog he mistakenly thought was invading his personal space (yes, he has issues). Our other dog, Daisy, is beautifully behaved out in public and generally ignores horses, but we chose NOT to take her to Burghley this year because we felt we would be unable to enjoy the three days AND give her the attention she deserves - she would have spent quite alot of time in the creche on Friday and yesterday. She will, though, be going to Blenheim cross country with me this coming weekend :).

I too, saw alot of dogs being yanked and pulled - if your dog won't walk nicely on the lead then teach it to do so - and until it has learned don't take your frustration out on the dog. Also, please don't feed your dog your scraps and then expect it NOT to have runny poos (which are next to impossible to clean up) - I saw several dogs being fed directly from their owner's picnics and/or the trade stands and cringed. If we go travelling with the dogs, we take dog food.

As an aside, we went to a local county show last weekend and as I wasn't also wrangling a horse, I chose to take Daisy with me. I was appalled to see a man with a very unruly chocolate lab actually kick it in the face when it lunged (playfully) towards Daisy . . . I saw the same man and dog several times during the day and his behaviour towards his dog didn't get any better. Idiot.

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I watched online and on bbc2 yesterday.
I could hear lots of dogs barking and wingeing.
Its really annoying!

I take my dog with me but she doesnt make a sound if she did and i couldnt stop her then i wouldnt take her.
 
Tinkerbee said:
Yes there was a lurcher type chased a horse (I am completely dense and can't remember which rider/fence!) over at least 2 fences. :( Was tackled by a steward (I think!) with a spare lead and dragged back to owner, who I hope was given a good *******ing.

First time I've seen a dog loose on a xc up close and it was horrid, it looked so close to everyone going arse over tit :mad: :(
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I saw this too. Glad that it didnt distract the horse and rider though.
 
I don't mind well behaved dogs on leads out on the xc course but they were doing my head in in the shopping area. I must have fallen over at least half a dozen and the number of yelps coming from dogs that had been trodden on was awful :(
I love dogs, i have a German Shepherd and shes brilliant at the yard etc, but I wouldn't dream of taking her to Burghley.
I saw a LOT of owners who were stressed and certainly not in control. Sad really as its an expensive day out and you're supposed to enjoy it..........
 
If they banned dogs from events like this then I think their profit would plummet. Most of the time my parents look after my dogs but sometimes they can't so they have to come with me. Some people don't have anyone to take care of their dogs and you can't leave them at home for that period of time.

If everyone that took a dog to Burghey just didn't go, think how much money this would have cost the organisers!
 
i agree with what everyone has said but also feel that the dogs can also make the event, can give something for you talk to new people about.

ONE THING THAT MASSIVELY ANNOYED ME IS SOME DOGS WEARING HARNESSES THAT CLIP ON THE BACK, FITTING THEM THE LEGS GO THROUGH AND CLIP ALONG THE BACK OF THE DOG. THE DOG CAN BACK OUT OF THESE HARNESSES!!!!!!! MY OPINION THESE SHOULD BE BANNED.

sorry for the rant but i find this more of a problem then a yapping dog (worked at a specialist small animal vets for 2yrs)
 
I was sat at the corner by the elephant trap and some idiot was stood with their little terrier by the fence. The terrier got under and they managed to drag him back through just before the horse came around the corner.

Parents sat there letting children sit right by the XC course hold the dog!! A child could just get distracted, and the dog is away!

Now I am not a dog hater, infact I have 4 dogs but I would never bring them to a XC day. Too easy for them to escape and cause an accident.
 
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Why bring dogs INTO the trate stands and massive marquees? I fell over so may dogs! If me and the parents bring dogs to an agricultural show for a day out, we always have someone stood outside the trade stand holding the dog. They are packed enough as it is.

Also.. on Friday it was roasting, there were ALOT of dogs around. I didn't see one person offer their dog water.. alot of people didn't even try and sit it the shade :(
 
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countrybumpkin1 said:
i agree with what everyone has said but also feel that the dogs can also make the event, can give something for you talk to new people about.
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OR, they can really spoil the enjoyment of it for some people.

I love dogs, I have two, but I really resent paying all that money to go and spectate and then being subjected to yapping, (every time a horse comes past, or a whistle goes off), dogs scrapping, leads getting tied around my legs, it being ten times harder to get a good view of a fence because someone has hogged all the space for their fat labs, seeing distressed dogs who are tired and unfit being dragged around, or worse still puppies who are too young for it all, oh and in the tradestands it is a nightmare, not to mention spending the whole day trying to avoid stepping in the poos that people don't clear up.

It's only a matter of time before a serious accident occurs; either due to a dog chasing a horse, or mauling a child, whatever, and then thankfully they will be banned. I just wish some venues would hurry up and do it sooner.
 
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