'Doodles are dogs for cat people'

Jenko, I have to disagree with you about the breeders. Im sure there will be some shockers out there but I have to say, the lady I bought mine from had done everything by the book. We saw all the health certs for the parents, her own little cocker was adorable and a delight to be with. She had gone above and beyond with the puppy care to 8 weeks, supplied all the info we needed, food, blankets, toys for him to travel home with and had paid for the full course of jabs needed. He was chipped, wormed and even bathed and trimmed before we collected him He was beautifully socialised, part house trained and used to all manner of random things. She was so obviously a good person, we had no doubts at all about buying from her. We had enquired about a couple of other litters but didnt visit, based on the phone conversations :(
 
MyBoyChe said:
Jenko, I have to disagree with you about the breeders. Im sure there will be some shockers out there but I have to say, the lady I bought mine from had done everything by the book. We saw all the health certs for the parents, her own little cocker was adorable and a delight to be with. She had gone above and beyond with the puppy care to 8 weeks, supplied all the info we needed, food, blankets, toys for him to travel home with and had paid for the full course of jabs needed. He was chipped, wormed and even bathed and trimmed before we collected him He was beautifully socialised, part house trained and used to all manner of random things. She was so obviously a good person, we had no doubts at all about buying from her. We had enquired about a couple of other litters but didnt visit, based on the phone conversations :(
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Well that is nice to read. I suppose it may just be the horrors of reading through Gumtree ads that lead me to think there are none out there.
 
MyBoyChe said:
Jenko, I have to disagree with you about the breeders. Im sure there will be some shockers out there but I have to say, the lady I bought mine from had done everything by the book. We saw all the health certs for the parents, her own little cocker was adorable and a delight to be with. She had gone above and beyond with the puppy care to 8 weeks, supplied all the info we needed, food, blankets, toys for him to travel home with and had paid for the full course of jabs needed. He was chipped, wormed and even bathed and trimmed before we collected him He was beautifully socialised, part house trained and used to all manner of random things. She was so obviously a good person, we had no doubts at all about buying from her. We had enquired about a couple of other litters but didnt visit, based on the phone conversations :(
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There are definitely some good breeders out there, I keep using my cousin’s dog’s breeder as a fine example, they had a 2 hour face time, they saw the puppies, went on a waiting list, missed out on one litter then heard they would get a male from the next litter-different bitch, they don’t breed endless litters. She needed references, it was all very ‘ideal’.

There are so many unethical/jump on the bandwagon ’breeders’, tho, but they’re driven by public demand. Given the laws in (is it Sweden?)I do think the KC ought to step the heck up. They’re worse than useless.
 
P3LH said:
Of course there are many existing breeds that would be suitable for this role - but half of these breeds are unknown to the public. In some of the rarer breeds cases im quite vocal to those with them that I feel breed clubs operate on too much of a mafia type basis - if you have the breed or know the right people you can get one, if you don’t then it’s like trying to purchase a dodo egg.
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I was going to say that there's something - diasppointing or sad are too strong a word I think - but there's something about the ubiquitousness of the poodle crosses when there are so many interesting and historic breeds available, including vulnerable breeds and particularly the vulnerable native breeds, but I find that I agree with you. Either those breeds are just not known about, in which case the KC and the breed clubs need to pull their fingers out and do more about it, or it's just too difficult to get one. I've written on here before I think that unless you're already 'in' dogs it must be a nightmare trying to understand and navigate the system of breed clubs, waiting lists, health testing and probably no small amount of gatekeeping and a touch of snobbery in some cases.

I'm another that has seen a rash of them locally with poor temperaments, I think due to a single but prolific breeder who thankfully seems to have stopped advertising now. Twas ever thus with the popular breed or type of the moment though; people buy what they like the look of, and/or because their friend has a nice one that fits in with family life, and don't go beyond looking on Gumtree or Pets4Homes or similar which is an absolute spin on the roulette wheel of what they might actually end up with. The poodle crosses just seem to be having a longer and more buoyant period than some of the previous popularity spikes. Maybe because *gasp* most of them make for decent pets ? but there are certainly those who end up with something they really didn't plan for in terms of size/coat/behaviour.
 
I think I have told the story before about my colleague who went to one of those KC Q&A sessions a few years back, when a head honcho lamented the fact that the public was clamouring for poodle crosses and 'YOU! (points accusingly across the room at the breeders and exhibitors) are not providing the people with what they want!'
Also mooted a limited/restricted registry for crossbreeds similar to the activity register, but without any sort of discount, of course.
 
Going back to the OP surely if a dog for cat people was invented it would be a chow chow (aloof and territorial) X terrier (brings dead things into the house? I'm a cat person and that is a pretty terrifying concept ?
Oh or (from my dog sitting experience once) a chihuahua (small enough to curl up.on your lap) X husky (aloof, groom themselves, high prey drive).
Am I getting the reasons we own cats wrong ?
 
minesadouble said:
I just don't get the whole 'Labradoodle' 'Cockapoo' naming phenomenon. It's a cross breed.

If I put a TB stallion on a Connemara mare I would produce a TB x Connemara. I wouldn't advertise the offspring as Thoroughcon or a Connderbred so why on earth would you do this with a dog??
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I think we should start doing that ? I like Conderbred!
TB x Welsh- Thorelsh
TB X ID- Thoroughdraft
 
skinnydipper said:
The only problem I personally have with the smaller 'poos' is that they like to jump up and I'm not a fan of that whatever the breed, but that is owner failure as little fluffy will have been rewarded for the behaviour..
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This is the bane of my life. Mabel is getting better as she gets older but people see a cute little teddy bear and don't mind her jumping up at them so they bend down and give her attention and essentially reward her. All very well when we're at home and she's clean but the next poor person that meets us knee high in mud after a walk isn't going to feel the same!
 
I just can't help myself, every time there is a doodle bashing thread I feel compelled to come on and back my little girls' corner ;)

We may have got lucky. She's my first dog (grew up with dogs) but maybe having a horse and understanding the fundamentals of animal behaviour helps but she is literally the easiest dog in the world. Nothing phases her (except the mastermind beep), she's not bothered by fireworks, big dogs, small dogs, old dogs, young dogs, people, children, horses, etc etc. I can hack with her trotting along next to me (private land), we can leave her at home without fear of any accidents/chewing, she's best buds with two german shepherds, she's the same if she gets taken for a 20km walk or a quick stroll around the block. She's so loving, so gentle with Florence and loves her cat brother Teddy.

I've come over all mushy, going to finish my work quick so I can run home and give her a big kiss and cuddle.
 
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