Dorsal Stripes on Duns ...

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Was just thinking about it .. Ted is passported as dun, but doesnt have a stripe down his back .. instead he has one running from between his front legs down to just befoe his sheath ... does he still count as a dun? I have pics of him in the summer but none of his stripe ..just a general question
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i think its a tad weird
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My boy who is a dun has a really strong dorsal stripe along his back. He has a very pale stripe along his belly, I think god ran out of ink!


Other dun markings are stripes on legs, cob webbing on forehead, dark stipes on withers (as donkey), ears dipped in chocolate, no white and In my humble opinion are the best colour in the world!!!
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Haha I agree theyre the best colours
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so unique ...
He doesnt have any of those except the ears dipped in chocolate
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and this dark stripe down his belly ... ill try and get a picture of it when I next see him on Monday
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I've had (still got one) dun ponies. One didn't have a doral stripe and techically wasn't a dun, but a Buckskin (so I was told). Juno (current pony) has got a stripe and is a Mouse Dun.
Totally love the colour, and by far the best colour in the world - never a bad Dun as far as iam concerned.

Juno!
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Tonitot. I'm sorry, I think ted is a fake,
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...i mean a buckskin
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. This is c & p'd from wikipedia.

He's still a lovely smart boy though. perhaps an honorary dun?

The classic Dun is a gray-gold or tan, characterized by a body color ranging from sandy yellow to reddish-brown. Dun horses always have a dark stripe down the middle of their back, a tail and mane darker than the body coat, and usually darker faces and legs. Other duns may appear a light yellowish shade, or a steel gray, depending on the underlying coat color genetics. Manes, tails, primitive markings and other dark areas are usually the shade of the non-diluted base coat color.

The dun allele is a simple dominant, so that the phenotype of a horse with either one copy or two copies of the gene is dun. It has a stronger effect than other dilution genes, such as the silver dapple gene, which acts only on black-based coats, or the cream gene, an incomplete dominant which must be homozygous to be fully expressed, and when heterozygous is only visible on bay and chestnut coats, and then to a lesser degree.[1]

The dun gene also is characterized by primitive markings which are darker than the body color. Primitive markings include:

Dorsal stripe (stripe down the center of the back, along the spine), seen almost universally on all duns
Horizontal striping on the back of forelegs, common on most duns, though at times rather faint
Shoulder blade stripe, the least commonly-seen of the primitive markings.

Dun Mimics
Since the dun gene, when on a "bay dun" horse, can closely resemble buckskin, in that both colors feature a light-colored coat with a dark mane and tail, classic duns are frequently confused with buckskins. The difference between these two colors is that dun is a tan color, somewhat duller than the more cream or gold buckskin, and duns also possess primitive markings. Some buckskins do show countershading, but it is not related to the primitive markings of dun factor horses.

Genetically, a bay dun is a bay horse with the dun gene that causes the lighter coat color and the primitive markings. A buckskin is bay horse with the addition of the cream gene causing the coat color to be diluted from red to gold, often without primitive markings.
 
Scan read the post from Wiki so sorry if repeated etc.

I think he's buckskin
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All duns MUST have a clear dorsal stripe down their backs or they are a buckskin. As far as I know a buckskin can also have a dorsal stripe, but it won't be as clear as a true dun. Can't remember that part clearly though, sorry.

A dun has dark legs. They do not have black legs - just very very dark legs (the same colour as their coat). So a Dun chestnut (don't know fancy name) would have dark red legs, although they may look pretty black.
A buckskin has black legs.
 
Im thinking my "dun" pony may be buckskin then .. his legs are black in summer but a dark chocolate browny colour in winter. Ah well duns and buckskin are both unique so Im still happy
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Forgot to say he's a seriously cute & gorgeous lad!!
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Lovely colour, whatever he is
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Aw thanks
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Im glad people on here think hes cute
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Tonitot - He looks like a buckskin to me.

I breed duns, so have got to grips with most of their genetics!

Duns MUST have a dorsal stripe, but having a dorsal stripe doesn't make a horse dun. Duns do NOT have to have dark legs, either.

Dun is a diluting gene that can occur in any colour. When you describe a dun, you should first list it's base colour - so, you should say bay dun or chestnut dun or black dun.

Most people get bay duns confused with buckskins. But they are two different colours. A bay dun is a bay horse with the dun gene, a buckskin is a bay horse with a copy of the cream gene. They can look quite similar, but with practice, most of the time, you can make a good guess at which is which. Breed often gives it away - there are no proven dun Welsh or Connemara or some other breeds - they are are all buckskins. Some breeds only seem to carry dun, and no buckskin, like highlands. Some breeds carry both - like shetlands.

Here are some pics of my duns.

These are chestnut duns:

http://www.varkiesstud.co.uk/html/duke.html
http://www.varkiesstud.co.uk/html/veka.html

These are bay duns:

http://www.varkiesstud.co.uk/html/kizzie.html
http://www.varkiesstud.co.uk/html/velia.html
http://www.varkiesstud.co.uk/html/victorious.html

These are black duns:

http://www.varkiesstud.co.uk/html/valko.html
http://www.varkiesstud.co.uk/html/viva.html

This is a buckskin, tho not necessarily your typically coloured one:

http://www.varkiesstud.co.uk/html/netia.html

And just to confuse things, this is a mare who is a black dun but also carries roan - she changes colour dramatically over the year:

http://www.varkiesstud.co.uk/html/daisy_may.html
 
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Was just thinking about it .. Ted is passported as dun, but doesnt have a stripe down his back .. instead he has one running from between his front legs down to just befoe his sheath ... does he still count as a dun? I have pics of him in the summer but none of his stripe ..just a general question
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Maybe he just has his coat on upside down?
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