Dream Team Treeless Saddle By Torsion

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Has anyone got or tried the Dream Team treeless saddle by Torsion? I have seen a second hand one advertised online and it looks lovely, with more of a traditional look to it.

Does anyone know if they are made well/distribute the weight evenly? A proper pad will be used under it too.

Thank you
 
Hello - about a month late, but just wanted to say I bought one of these when they were launched - back in Dec 2009 and i love it. My horse is on the skinny side, but varies, so after numerous saddle fittings within a month, i ditched the tree'd saddle - which we couldn't get right for him anyway - and tried the Dream Team saddle.

I LOVE IT !! I'm not great at cleaning tack etc and so it hasn't been cleaned too often, but it still in very good nick and as everyone tells me its like an armchair! i have the high-wither pad that came with it. I know treeless isn't ideal for a spiney horse, but I'm not too heavy (10st) he is alot more comfy in this one than any treed i tried him in, so unless he complains - which he will if he's sore!! - I'm sticking to it.

Sorry I cannot tell you about the weight bearing and load, etc as I'm not sure about that and tend to judge the comfort by my horse's reaction. i have also jumped in it and it's fine.

my trouble now tho is that i have converted to western riding and i want to find the same thing in western, but i can't (or rather i can't afford what i've seen) and would love to find a brave saddle-maker who would try to convert one of these to western for me

:D
 
Hi,
I have a dream saddle, they are really comfy, the weight distribution, is I am told where you sit, as there is no tree to distribute the weight too, if that makes sense.
It is liking riding bareback with a comfy seat!

Mine is for sale if interested! ( got treed as we are doing showing classes)
 
Bargepole? Why??!!

I have an original Torsion - the best saddle I have ever owned, and I have owned and used quite a few in my years.
 
The Dream Team saddle is NOT made by Torsion.

The people that make the Dream Team saddle have been vendors for Torsion and have such made their own rip off of the Torsion (the Dream Team saddle).

I have explained my reasons for not touching Dream Team saddles with a bargepole here......

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=579244&highlight=dream+team

Torsion is a long standing and trusted brand of saddle. I have been using treeless saddles for over a decade now and a Torsion was the first treeless I ever bought - and I still have it.

The DT however, is not a long standing or trusted brand IMO.
 
Clearly you have had bad experiences with Dream Team saddles.

tbh i've never used any other so i cannot compare.

I suppose DT saddle will need to be around a few more years before it can be a tried and tested saddle - poor thing was only launched 2009/2010.

I believe they have also recently been bought out. perhaps it will be discontinued ?

Just read your attached post, Oberon. Wow, not nice that the pommel snapped. I wonder what they did to cause that to happen? And why they hadn't noticed ?! I'm sure my horse would let me know immediately if it hurt him - he was in such a poor state when i got him and just couldn't get on with treed. DT was £395 new - not expensive in my opinion and seemed better quality than the unknown cheapies on eBay, so i took the risk. my horse immediately stepped out and even though he is a little skinny and high withered, we have never had problems with his back. the other saddles (treed) used to slip and rub etc.

i guess its each to their own really.


but now i need a western saddle that is as flexible as this one and i'm set

:)
 
All-Things-Natural said:
Just read your attached post, Oberon. Wow, not nice that the pommel snapped. I wonder what they did to cause that to happen? And why they hadn't noticed ?!
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The saddle had been brought brand new and used lightly by a novice eight stone happy hacker in walk, trot and canter.

It wasn't easy to tell the pommel had snapped due to the padding.

It all became apparent when pony went nuts one day and ditched the rider at speed.

The issue is that the pommel SHOULDN'T have snapped under such conditions (light use and well looked after) and the vendor should have been willing to provide a refund without the buyer threatening legal action.

Following feedback from others too - they look nice but it's really not worth the risk IMO.
 
Good to know.

I'm pretty careless with my stuff and throw it about a bit, so i guess i've been lucky. I'm more on the 10st side and also a happy hacker - but will look out for signs of breakage, now that i know about this one.

One thing i did find with these saddles is that they are very large - i have a 16" which is their smallest and i know someone who wanted to buy one for her arab, but it was just too big. I have a 16hh high-ish withered warmblood. perhaps it is a better fit on him ?!

And yes, i certainly don't dispute bad customer service - there is no excuse for that at all. It is a wonder tho, that as they were threatened with legal action ... and this is not the first case of problems ... why they still have them advertised? bit odd that - could land them in worse trouble - well the new owners that is.
 
I did a lot of research a few years back when I was planning on going treeless. I found some quite bad stuff about them - pressure points, and them just not being fit for purpose, people in major disputes with the company that makes them.
In all the reading (and I read lots) on a budget, torison, barefoot and treefree were the only ones I'd touch with a bargepole. Choice wise, I'd go for an Exmoor tree free.
I went for a startrek at the time - (they are pricey) and it was awful!
 
All-Things-Natural said:
One thing i did find with these saddles is that they are very large - i have a 16" which is their smallest and i know someone who wanted to buy one for her arab, but it was just too big.
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There is that too. My other friend who bought one was flabbergasted by how long and hefty it was, as was I. Her horse (a wide cob) also suffered back problems after a short time using it.
 
Yep, I can see it may be a problem on a wide cob. After reading your posts regarding this saddle i had a good look at my pommel - luckily still in tact, but i have a narrow withered horse and it fits him nicely - i can see where it may dig into a wide withered horse.

I know someone who had a barefoot (i think?) saddle many years ago on a high withered thoroughbred. she loved the saddle, but took the pommel out and stuffed fabric in it to make it less rigid. not sure how this compromises the design, but it worked well for her and her horse.
 
All-Things-Natural said:
Yep, I can see it may be a problem on a wide cob. After reading your posts regarding this saddle i had a good look at my pommel - luckily still in tact, but i have a narrow withered horse and it fits him nicely - i can see where it may dig into a wide withered horse.

I know someone who had a barefoot (i think?) saddle many years ago on a high withered thoroughbred. she loved the saddle, but took the pommel out and stuffed fabric in it to make it less rigid. not sure how this compromises the design, but it worked well for her and her horse.
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The barefoot ones you can actually buy a pommel insert thats made of something other than fibreglass and is much more flexible, designed for the extremely wide cob type horse.
 
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