Dressage bit with leverage action at lower level?

[enchantedunicorn]

Do they even exist? I'm just wondering if there are any other dressage bits other than the weymouth ,which can only be used from elementry upwards ,that have a leverage action and are dressage legal. Sorry , if I'm wrong by calling them leverage action bits
Thanks

 

[Boysy]

Errm no because that would defeat the object of schooling the horse to accept the contact in a gentle soft manner and work from behind rather than cranking the head in and down....

 

[be positive]

Only snaffles are allowed which have no leverage effect, there are plenty of variations but none will act as a lever.

 

[enchantedunicorn]

I'm not planning on using one myself - I'm just curious as to why horses at elementry level and above which are better schooled and would work in a proper outline with proper head carriage , than lower level would need a weymouth and if I was missing something and there were bits for lower level riders who would perhaps want or need to use these bits more than better schooled horses that are allowed them. I'm not in agreement with bits that crank the horse head in at all - I don't even compete in dressage I am just curious to find out more about its rules etc.

 

[JFTDWS]

At elementary and above curb bits are allowed for greater communication and precision. They are not to crank the head in...

 

[Pigeon]

The hope I think is that riders at elem and above know how to use curb properly and have nice still hands