dieseldog
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Seems that Dressage Riders might be getting what they want and only the first 3 are allowed in for prize givings.
I think it's a shame.
I think it's a shame.
Dressage Prize Givings
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SpottedCat
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I don't get it as I thought dressage was meant to be all about training obedience and submission.
Sarah_Jane
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Certainly if I had a lower placing I would love to be in the prize giving.
I think it's a shame.
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SpottedCat
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Certainly if I had a lower placing I would love to be in the prize giving.
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I live for the day I finally make it to a mounted prize-giving. Unaffiliated SJ excluded!
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I live for the day I finally make it to a mounted prize-giving. Unaffiliated SJ excluded!
dieseldog
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I know.
I thought they were the best behaved out of all the disciplines - should be!
I thought they were the best behaved out of all the disciplines - should be!
H-J
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I don't get it as I thought dressage was meant to be all about training obedience and submission.
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I don't get it as I thought dressage was meant to be all about training obedience and submission.
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icestationzebra
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Booo
Now I will never get to one
Little_Mare
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I also think it's a huge shame. It's just as well I'll never achieve anything major as I'd be gutted to miss out on a "proper" prizegiving because I was "only" placed!!!
I don't totally understand the proposed procedure but think perhaps for big comps they could allow each placed horse to do an individual lap of honour while the placings are announced, a one in, one out type affair... (only as a compromise mind
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It's constantly talked about how to raise interest in the sport and I think they'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they got rid of the bit of pizazz there is
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I don't get it as I thought dressage was meant to be all about training obedience and submission.
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I agree, it does seem a bit of a contradiction. I was watching the vids posted in Breeding from the Oldenburg Verband awards and the atmosphere there looked electric and the horses seemed to cope...
I don't totally understand the proposed procedure but think perhaps for big comps they could allow each placed horse to do an individual lap of honour while the placings are announced, a one in, one out type affair... (only as a compromise mind
It's constantly talked about how to raise interest in the sport and I think they'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they got rid of the bit of pizazz there is
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I don't get it as I thought dressage was meant to be all about training obedience and submission.
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I agree, it does seem a bit of a contradiction. I was watching the vids posted in Breeding from the Oldenburg Verband awards and the atmosphere there looked electric and the horses seemed to cope...
Touchwood
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I don't think this is the best way to go if they want to raise the profile of the sport.
Some horses have genuine issues with prizegivings, and for those there should be an element of rider discretion allowed, but for the majority, train your horse and stop being precious! I'm a dressage rider, and I think prize givings are one of the rare times you feel 'appreciated'....if thats the right word to use.
Some horses have genuine issues with prizegivings, and for those there should be an element of rider discretion allowed, but for the majority, train your horse and stop being precious! I'm a dressage rider, and I think prize givings are one of the rare times you feel 'appreciated'....if thats the right word to use.
Seahorse
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I do dressage and showing with my horse so I'm lucky that he's used to cantering around with other horses, although 23 in a riding horse class all cantering together was a little bit hairy!
HBDUK
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We went to the bundeschampionate in Germany this year and they tried out a different way of doing the prize giving for the 6yo qualifying class. The 4th to 10th combinations came into the arena one after another with their rosettes already attached and each trotted or cantered a circuit before going out again. 1st to 3rd then came in and took part in a traditional prizegiving where they were presented with their rosettes etc and then did 2 laps.
I have to say it was a much more enjoyable way of doing it as 4th to 10th got their chance to show off with all eyes on them for one circuit each without the worry of being run into by a horse behind or having their face kicked in by a horse in front. When you have seen 10 young horses in an arena for a prize giving you will understand where the proposals for a different format are coming from. If one horse in the line up decides it really doesn't want to be there its very difficult to keep the rest calm enough to have people in their presenting the rosettes.
When you consider that in Germany they have prize givings for each class at all shows even the lowest level ones so horses have been doing them regularly since they were 3 years old, you realise that even the best trained horses sometimes cannot cope with them. Salinero bolted with a pregnant Anky out of the arena at the World Games last year and was only stopped by another horse standing in his way on the track back to the stables. You cannot say that Salinero is not well trained.
Anyone who saw the 5yo young horse prizegiving at the National Dressage Champs this year - when the winner, a horse well known for his rideability and great temperament, bolted with his rider running into the back of the rest of the horses who hadn't even started their lap of honour - would agree that there has to be a better way of going about prize givings especially for young horses.
I don't think the format trialled at the bundeschampionate would leave anyone without their much deserved time in the spotlight as in fact with each horse doing their lap one after the other all eyes are on each person for a whole circuit. I am not normally one for all this health and safety rubbish but i have seen some very hairy moments in prize givings over the years and i think that anything that makes it safer and less stressful on the horses but without taking away the recognition of each combinations achievement would be much appreciated by all in the long term.
I have to say it was a much more enjoyable way of doing it as 4th to 10th got their chance to show off with all eyes on them for one circuit each without the worry of being run into by a horse behind or having their face kicked in by a horse in front. When you have seen 10 young horses in an arena for a prize giving you will understand where the proposals for a different format are coming from. If one horse in the line up decides it really doesn't want to be there its very difficult to keep the rest calm enough to have people in their presenting the rosettes.
When you consider that in Germany they have prize givings for each class at all shows even the lowest level ones so horses have been doing them regularly since they were 3 years old, you realise that even the best trained horses sometimes cannot cope with them. Salinero bolted with a pregnant Anky out of the arena at the World Games last year and was only stopped by another horse standing in his way on the track back to the stables. You cannot say that Salinero is not well trained.
Anyone who saw the 5yo young horse prizegiving at the National Dressage Champs this year - when the winner, a horse well known for his rideability and great temperament, bolted with his rider running into the back of the rest of the horses who hadn't even started their lap of honour - would agree that there has to be a better way of going about prize givings especially for young horses.
I don't think the format trialled at the bundeschampionate would leave anyone without their much deserved time in the spotlight as in fact with each horse doing their lap one after the other all eyes are on each person for a whole circuit. I am not normally one for all this health and safety rubbish but i have seen some very hairy moments in prize givings over the years and i think that anything that makes it safer and less stressful on the horses but without taking away the recognition of each combinations achievement would be much appreciated by all in the long term.
FREESTYLER
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I have done a couple of "roundy roundy" as I call them!!! I was a little hesitant about doing my second one... but thought.. oh to hell with it lets go!! When I first got into dressage...a couple of years ago.. I was quite dismayed that there was no prize giving at the local BD events? You just get your test sheet and hopefully a prize!!... when I did S/J it was great if you placed/won.. you went out and did a roundy roundy every time!! .. maybe because of this, the horses do not get use to it....I know it takes time out of the day but if S/J can do it why not BD? If a roundy roundy was done at local level, when you got to Regional/National it would not be such a big thing? What do you think?
conniegirl
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i think its a shame and perhaps the one area that dressage needs to take a leaf from the showing book.
are dressage riders so precious they cant deal with riding in a group?
if we can cope with 20+ 4 and 5 yearold novices walk trot, canter and galloping in a group and then a lap of honor at the end with very few mishaps im sure that the dressage riders should be able to do it.
Its not hard to get a horse to stand for a prize giving, its one of the first things that many show horses learn is to stand still and accept strange people comeing up to it wafting rosettes and sashes.
are dressage riders so precious they cant deal with riding in a group?
if we can cope with 20+ 4 and 5 yearold novices walk trot, canter and galloping in a group and then a lap of honor at the end with very few mishaps im sure that the dressage riders should be able to do it.
Its not hard to get a horse to stand for a prize giving, its one of the first things that many show horses learn is to stand still and accept strange people comeing up to it wafting rosettes and sashes.
Law
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I agree. The affiliated classes for dressage here don't do any mounted prize givings but they do for unaffiliated SJ... to music.
It's quite cool getting to do a lap to music
PaddyMonty
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Shame. Mouted prize giving was the only fun bit in my otherwise boring days at dressage. Great spectator sport.
Taboo1968
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I've only done a roundy roundy once in dressage and luckily he was very well behaved! However did a roundy roundy in a showing class and he thought that was immense fun!! given the fact that he had been required to gallop in his show!!! Think there should be roundy roundy's for all!