Dressage Stallions with excellent hind leg conformation and action

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As previously mentioned, I would like to breed my mare some time in the next 5 years, so I am creating a short list of stallions that I would consider when the time comes. The stallions must be available through AI and can be based anywhere in Europe.

Thinking about what would suit my mare best, the list of requirements are as follows:

- Warmblood Stallion
- Licensed by one of the major breed societies
- Young, i.e. still available in the years to come
- Excellent breeding with great dressage heritage/potential
- Excellent hind leg conformation
- Excellent marks for both walk and canter
- Active hind leg action (tucks them under well)
- Excellent temperment, not too hot-headed
- Preferably known to have black or very dark bay foals
- Excellent chilled/frozen semen quality

If any of you know one that fits the above, please let me know!
 
For Hanoverian Stallions look on hannoveraner.com in stallion Directory and you will see all the stats you need
 
IMO you should try to see the stallion you are interested in before using him. There is a very interesting thread running on COTH with the following posts:

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"I have just left working at Blue Hors and worked with the stallions everyday.

It was great to know Hotline inside out and my mare is so like him in many ways; he appears to be stamping his babies very well.

My mare is out of a Weltmeyer mare and she turned two this March. She is dark bay with a white star and one white sock!

She started out with a plain head but this year has brought a more defined and pretty head. She is long legged and should make about 16.3.

I have some action pics of her during 2008 which I shall post tomorrow but will try to get some recent pics.

Her hooves are just like Hotlines; boxy but they appear to have improved recently and should be no problem later on. Temperament is bold and confident, feisty but never nasty and never puts her ears back just loved to show off in the field.

I know Hotline is rather difficult to ride and not that responsive to the leg, he is also rather stubborn in nature some times really grumpy and I think my mare can be stubborn and think she will be a late developer as will most Hotty offspring like he was."

And a reply from a German breeder who has a lot of experience:

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*cough* I don't think you want to really base your opinion on SPT scores.
Keep in mind is that there are few scores on earth that are more political than these. Therefor a good or bad SPT needs to be read with a big grain of salt from my point of view. If you want to know about the rideability of any breeding stallion you need to watch them in training and at competition. Videos can be manufactured, SPT's can as well (if what it takes is to send in 5 more as cannon-food that's what owners will do if they are interested enough), stallionshows - well there are no medication controls for these to date, and even while competition isn't politics-free either at least you have a good chance at watching these horses in their more or less nature-given way of going while in warmup and during a test.
Preferrably I would watch them at home though during the breeding season as this is where I find them to come closest to what they are really like."
 
Well I suggested him in your last thread and still stand by my opinion! T Movistar fits all your criteria I believe! He is AES graded, He has fantastic hind limb action (as most Jazz offspring do!) but has more of a level head than jazz himself. See the British Dressage summer and winter championship results, at the winters he won with 75.92% in the intermediare 1 music freestyle! Ridden by Carl Hester.

He is dark bay but there is a chestnut gene through Jazz so the chance of a chestnut foal will depend on your mares' genetics. I've seen pictures of chestnut and dark bay/black foals by him. My Colt born this year has very springy action through the hind limbs and has a good upright shoulder giving him lift. I'm over the moon with him!

Movistar's also 9 years old this year so still young, he's being prepared for grand prix later this year.
 
Competitiondiva - yes, he's now on my shortlist, too... did your colt inherit T Movistar's level headed temperament? Do you have pics? Haha... knowing my luck Jazz' difficult gene that jumped a generation would be present in my foal :rolleyes: !!
 
Here's a picy of my boy (yes I got the chestnut gene but my mares' dam is chestnut so knew it was a possibility!!)
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Sorry forgot to add! He's got my mares ears!! (big tabs!!) My mare is very laid back and he seems quite ameanable (sp?!) He was leading in and out to the field and picking up his feet by 1 week old, you can worm him easily and he is very affectionate (don't get me wrong he has his coltish moments but I can't complain!)
You tube clip of him at less than 2 days old! He's filled out abit now!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ9YXi0mtuQ
 
Competitiondiva - your foal is gorgeous!

My mare is dark bay - but with a chestnut tummy!!!
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He looks gorgeous... and very curious on that video.

Edited to ask: Which society are you registering your foal with?

 
I don't want to be negative, but I'm while I like him as a comptition horse, I'm not totally taken by Movistar and would only use him on a mare with a very good hind leg an most importantly a strong canter. His canter was not always completely pure as a younger horse and if he was under a lesser rider I think a few problems would be more evident.
 
@GAN1 - Have looked at your stallion... he has such a floaty walk!!! He would actually compliment my mare quite well - her best pace is trot - incredibly floaty and gorgeous to look at... that's normally the pace she shows off with, but I want to improve her walk (which she thinks is the lamest gait ever and shows it - well, she improves when she gets a little tickle!) and also her canter. How is your stallion's canter?

@Halfstep - That would be a problem... I need a stallion that can improve on my mare's hind leg and has a strong, balanced canter to boast.
 
his canter is lovely - well I think so anyway!! It is balanced and like all his paces has great rhythm - will put some video up of his canter asap - he naturally 'sits' in the canter - having to consciously ride it more forward atm, but I don't think pirouettes are going to be a problem when he's working at that level!
 
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