Dummy mare plans

I think our 22 year old stallion would laugh in my face if I presented him with that instead of a living, breathing squealing mare! Hes such an awkward b*****d to collect off and now someone in Holland is after his semen! Anybody got any tips or do you think we are fighting a losing battle?
 
Thats an interesting plan for a "Dummy Mare" made from telegraph poles" i see the plans come from the states..... it looks a little crude and you would require a good builder to construct it .....It looks a little unsafe and very narrow, i would think a stallion would have problems staying on it and balancing! telegraph poles are only 10" dia at the most. Our stallions are large and powerful when mounting [17hh warmbloods etc] as with other UK stallions... Being in the building trade, this would be cheap to make but if not constructed well, would seriously injury a stallion and handler if it collapsed...what sort of price are these against a pre-fab dummy and is the cost more important than the stallions safety! have you used these dummies!
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10" Diameter, plus the padding (which would be a minimum of 6" either side), would give a diameter of 22", which is an adequate width for a breeding mount. Obviously telegraph poles are very strong, and so are a good basis for a breeding mount.

The good thing about it, is it's not height adjustable (56" at the back is fine for horses 14.2hh to 17.2hh). If a height adjustable breeding mount decided to re-adjust it's own height during collection (and they do), you are unlikely to ever get a stallion to collect again. If strongly constructed, as described in the instructions, this mount is very unlikely to collapse.

The average cost of making one of these dummies is around £20, if you're a good freebie-finder.

Yes, I have collected from stallions using these dummies. I've had no problems whatsoever, and infact they have all been very solidly built. They do not wobble or make noise, like so many pre-fab dummies do; things which can be offputting for even the most excited stallions.

It's simply an option for those who might not be able to justify the expense of a prefab dummy mare. And in my book, collecting off a home-made dummy, is infinitely better than live cover or collecting from a jump mare. So really, the stallion's safety is improved when using this type of mount.
 
I think you forgot to read the bit about the padding, and how well it should be padded...

I have seen one of these mounts at the Renkum Stud a few years ago, when Randi was based there and watched Randi being collected from using this type of mount, it was very sturdy and well padded and there were no problems...

Actually I think this type of mount could have some advantages over a prefab dummy, stability for one, this type of mount is set into the ground which I think would give alot safer secure base than some prefabs which are bolted into the ground, over time the bolts will be weaken from use and a prefab dummy could potentially tip over whilst in use if not properly maintained. Also if properly constructed as per the instructions, its a very cost effective way of being able to collect from your stallion, when you do not have the funding or high level usage that warrants spending alot of money on a prefab one!
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I did actually read the blurb about padding on the website.... i was interested in how you would add the width onto the pole ..foam, quilts? adding a 6" padding would do but it would have to be well secured or it would slip about. I have seen pre-fabs set into the ground, so its really down to the make of the dummy etc ... its like all bolted down stuff, you have to maintain it ...so interesting ..guess its down to the owner in buying cheap and cheerful or a higher price dummy ..i did see that the company you premote this from is the same name business as AP ... is it the same company but in the UK ..
 
No we are not affliliated with Equine Reproduction LLC, USA. I have trained with them, and they gave permission to use the name in the UK. I also remain in contact with the owners of the company throughout the year to get advice, discuss research issues etc, and we help eachother out wherever possible.

Futon mattresses work really well (two mattresses = about 6" either side), and can be strapped down with a series of strong luggage ties; the type with a sprung metal clasp; when 3-4 of these are pulled tight, it's pretty much impossible to move the covering from the body.

Pre-fabs are availabe, and I'm not saying people shouldn't buy them if they can! Rather that they should use semen collection and AI over natural cover!
 
Well our dummy that we built to these specs - although not with a telegraph pole, but the basics were taken from these plans - has held up very well to use these past couple of days while AP has been here working with the 3 boys here!

Thanks a lot AP!
 
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