Monkers
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Another vote for Legrande! My first choice next year!
Dun stallion
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DW Team
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There are Cremello, Perlino, Smokey Black stallions standing at http://www.brackenspastud.co.uk/HBT-all-our-Stallion/all-our-Stallion/horses-T1.html if that is any help.
Enfys
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Better in the flesh
He was the horse that changed my mind about dilute Tbs. I believe AI to non-Tb mares is available.
flyingcolors
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Unfortunately The Alchemist died after colic surgery October 22. It was a great shock and very hard for me and I am still not over it. The week after he died, our homebred stallion Weissgold GF finalized his 70 days stallion performance test and his foals are now eligible for most all major WB Associations except Hannover and Holstein who do not allow the diluted coloring.
Kaylum
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There are quite a few RID duns. May favourtie is http://www.solutionfactor.com/stallions/regaliaprincearthurrid.html although he stands in the USA. Our old fella is his mares sire.
cruiseline
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I have never heard of a true 'DUN' RID, how fabulous
Can I please point out that DUN and BUCKSKIN are two completely different genes and although they look similar in appearance, there are some fundamental differences.
All but one horse (the RID) mentioned in this thread are dilutes (Cr), which basically is the cream gene working on a bay horse. If the cream gene was working on a chestnut horse you would have a palomino
Lark
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I have never heard of a true 'DUN' RID, how fabulous
Can I please point out that DUN and BUCKSKIN are two completely different genes and although they look similar in appearance, there are some fundamental differences.
All but one horse (the RID) mentioned in this thread are dilutes (Cr), which basically is the cream gene working on a bay horse. If the cream gene was working on a chestnut horse you would have a palomino
There was an entire Dun RID for sale a couple of years ago. He was stunning but not sure where he got to.
Cruiseline I have recently bought a filly foal (dun) purely with the intention of using Legrande. She is by Crown's Ace of Pearl out of a Sammartini (Samber) mare.
Please hold on to him for 3 years
Faberge
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Cruiseline I have recently bought a filly foal (dun) purely with the intention of using Legrande. She is by Crown's Ace of Pearl out of a Sammartini (Samber) mare. Please hold on to him for 3 years
She must be buckskin, not dun!
s4sugar
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In that cased she must be buckskin & not dun!There was an entire Dun RID for sale a couple of years ago. He was stunning but not sure where he got to.
Cruiseline I have recently bought a filly foal (dun) purely with the intention of using Legrande. She is by Crown's Ace of Pearl out of a Sammartini (Samber) mare.
Please hold on to him for 3 years
Using a buckskin on a buckskin only gives the same odds of a buckskin foal as using a buckskin on a bay.
eventrider23
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Don't think Legrande is going far!!
Lark
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Yes buckskin (head melt!).
Interesting that the odds are the same as covering to a bay.
What other colours would be possible, buckskin x buckskin?
s4sugar
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Her sire is cremello so you know she carries red (chestnut).
Legrande also carries red so the possibilities are ;-
41.02% - Buckskin
20.51% - Perlino
20.51% - Bay
6.25% - Palomino
3.13% - Cremello
3.13% - Chestnut
2.73% - Smoky Black
1.37% - Smoky Cream
1.37% - Black
To a bay mare the possibilities are;- (Or using a bay stallion on your mare)
41.02% - Buckskin
41.02% - Bay
6.25% - Palomino
6.25% - Chestnut
2.73% - Smoky Black
2.73% - Black
Legrande also carries red so the possibilities are ;-
41.02% - Buckskin
20.51% - Perlino
20.51% - Bay
6.25% - Palomino
3.13% - Cremello
3.13% - Chestnut
2.73% - Smoky Black
1.37% - Smoky Cream
1.37% - Black
To a bay mare the possibilities are;- (Or using a bay stallion on your mare)
41.02% - Buckskin
41.02% - Bay
6.25% - Palomino
6.25% - Chestnut
2.73% - Smoky Black
2.73% - Black
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Lark
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cruiseline
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Thank you s4sugar, yes Legrande does carry one copy of the chestnut gene (his mother was palomino) so he can produce a whole host of colours. We have had bay, chestnut, buckskin and palomino foals this year. He was used on a buckskin mare last year and believe it or not she produced a chestnut foal with odds of that happening at 3.13% 
It is always very exciting waiting for the foals to pop out, so we can see what colour they are.
It is always very exciting waiting for the foals to pop out, so we can see what colour they are.s4sugar
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I used a palomino stallion on my bay frame overo mare.
Possibilities;-
12.50% - Palomino Overo
12.50% - Palomino
12.50% - Chestnut Overo
12.50% - Chestnut
10.94% - Buckskin Overo
10.94% - Buckskin
10.94% - Bay Overo
10.94% - Bay
1.56% - Smoky Black Overo
1.56% - Smoky Black
1.56% - Black Overo
1.56% - Black
I hoped for a filly & either frame or dilute so I wasn't being too greedy.
I got a chestnut colt... but he is quality and I'll take quality over colour any day of the week.
Possibilities;-
12.50% - Palomino Overo
12.50% - Palomino
12.50% - Chestnut Overo
12.50% - Chestnut
10.94% - Buckskin Overo
10.94% - Buckskin
10.94% - Bay Overo
10.94% - Bay
1.56% - Smoky Black Overo
1.56% - Smoky Black
1.56% - Black Overo
1.56% - Black
I hoped for a filly & either frame or dilute so I wasn't being too greedy.
I got a chestnut colt... but he is quality and I'll take quality over colour any day of the week.
cruiseline
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Absolutely
Even if you have the most beautiful colour of horse in the world, but the conformation, temperament, movement, ability etc. is not there, then you have nothing.