dutch pugs
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Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
Wow! Amazing. From what CC says the continent is always head of us, healthwise.
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
I’m ecstatic seeing this on Thistle’s FB! Promptly shared.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
The comments were interesting, I think they said switzerland (maybe sweden?!) already had something in place too for all breeds.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
what good news, about time someone made a stand. come on brits!!!!
CorvusCorax
Deary me...
Has the FCI made any adjustments to the breed standard?
druid
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No, nor has there been any suggestions for what to use as breeding stock....for once the KC BOAS scheme seems infinitely more useful/approachable to owners and breeders of pugs
Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
What is the BOAS scheme?
I assume that the proof of future results wil lbe when a dog that can breathe gets placed above one that can't at a big show.
druid
Well-Known Member
Link to KC Scheme - it's a scheme scoring the brachycephalic obstructive airway syndrome symptoms or lack of them in an individual dog that is permanently recorded on the dog's KC file/paperwork. BOAS is about so much more than just skull shape, although obviously a more moderate skull/snout is much better.
twiggy2
Well-Known Member
I am guessing the KC scheme is not compulsory, there are very very few assessors (one in Scotland for example).
It will probably go along similar lines as the ceasarian reporting. No vet I have ever worked with has registered a ceasarian with the KC, it is because they are concerned that breeders won't bring their bitches in for what is a life saving emergency surgery when it is needed for fear of it affecting their breed line status.
Buyers need educating, every BOAS surgery should be registered against the breeding stock lines, the ceasarian records are more difficult.
Or hear is a thought maybe the kennel club should disband and showing dogs Purely for looks should stop.
I know many dogs of unsound temperament that are shown and win so are then extensively bred.
One of those dogs was given a good hiding behind the scenes at every show so he behaved in the classes when in fact he was dog and human receive. He was a very well marked dark red and white so he as bred extensively for his colour, I have worked with a few of his off spring and they all have quirky temperaments.
It will probably go along similar lines as the ceasarian reporting. No vet I have ever worked with has registered a ceasarian with the KC, it is because they are concerned that breeders won't bring their bitches in for what is a life saving emergency surgery when it is needed for fear of it affecting their breed line status.
Buyers need educating, every BOAS surgery should be registered against the breeding stock lines, the ceasarian records are more difficult.
Or hear is a thought maybe the kennel club should disband and showing dogs Purely for looks should stop.
I know many dogs of unsound temperament that are shown and win so are then extensively bred.
One of those dogs was given a good hiding behind the scenes at every show so he behaved in the classes when in fact he was dog and human receive. He was a very well marked dark red and white so he as bred extensively for his colour, I have worked with a few of his off spring and they all have quirky temperaments.
CorvusCorax
Deary me...
Until shows/standards/judges promote what should be used as good breeding stock in mind and body and heritage and not 'the prettiest dog in front of the judge on the day' then I can't see anything changing.
The change has to come from the breed clubs and they need to speak with a united voice and take ownership.
And the fault does not lie solely with showing - backyard breeders cashing in on a certain documentary and producing dogs that are just as unhealthy and plain fugly with it, are a huge problem.
There needs to be a total change of mindset on how we breed and exhibit and buy pedigree dogs, IMO.
There's been a lot of carrot from the kennel clubs globally and not enough stick IMO - not in the right way, anyway. If you don't abide by the rules of a golf club, you don't get to play there. It's not nice to lose members but what is more important?
Fear of losing revenue should not come before the welfare of animals.
If you're buying a television or mobile phone, advertisers have no problem in educating people in the difference between a superior and an inferior product. However the puppy buying public are not receiving the kind of information they should, over something much more important.
'We can't insist on health testing as a pre-requisite for registration as it will lead to more puppy farming' is an attitude that exists, unfortunately.
And there is a huge knowledge deficit where puppy buyers believe that puppies being vet checked = positive health tests on the parents.
The change has to come from the breed clubs and they need to speak with a united voice and take ownership.
And the fault does not lie solely with showing - backyard breeders cashing in on a certain documentary and producing dogs that are just as unhealthy and plain fugly with it, are a huge problem.
There needs to be a total change of mindset on how we breed and exhibit and buy pedigree dogs, IMO.
There's been a lot of carrot from the kennel clubs globally and not enough stick IMO - not in the right way, anyway. If you don't abide by the rules of a golf club, you don't get to play there. It's not nice to lose members but what is more important?
Fear of losing revenue should not come before the welfare of animals.
If you're buying a television or mobile phone, advertisers have no problem in educating people in the difference between a superior and an inferior product. However the puppy buying public are not receiving the kind of information they should, over something much more important.
'We can't insist on health testing as a pre-requisite for registration as it will lead to more puppy farming' is an attitude that exists, unfortunately.
And there is a huge knowledge deficit where puppy buyers believe that puppies being vet checked = positive health tests on the parents.
Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
And that, over here especially, is not likely to happen any time soon.
Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
Rather like showing ponies, they always said you could tell a particular sire of children's ponies offspring by the fact they were being lunged for 3 hours and then ridden by an adult until the last possible minute.