Edward the dog beater. *deleted*

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This is not a place for arguing.

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! *pause to take breath* Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Are you serious? Do you not know this forum at ALL??
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Would much rather give them a wallop with a stick then patch up the damage they would do to each other if a fight was left to run its course.

I have hit the old boys before,two danes going at it is NOT fun and they would not listen to voice commands(normaly they would obey a wisper).
Had come in from yard and had whip in my boot,gave them a whack across the bum with it and fight over-nothing hurt but pride.
 
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Shanna. Who has opposed shooting?

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Oh no-one on this forum (i doubt it anyway) I was refering to the people that wrote into the newspapers slating everyone for shooting, the queen for necking a pheasant, etc ect
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Apparently now the RSPCA are going to investigate this incident. Have they really nothing better to do with their time and money, I honestly do fear that the time will come when we aren't even allowed to put collars on our dogs or bits in our horses mouths for fear of hurting the little darlings
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What a load of old b******s, no way I would separate two fighting dogs with a piece of my anatomy, but then again, that would be a good story for the Sun!

Grr, why dont the doo gooders go and do some real good, how many of us know of scum who keep dogs and cats cooped up in tiny flats, with no excercise not to mention the perfectly legal way in which the majority of our cheap meat is produced.
 
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Oh the useful RSPCA ....

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OOOoooh don't get me started on them!
If they DARE to spend time and money investigating this, I shall get on to them AGAIN!
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I reported a case of cruelty (real cruelty) to a dog in my village but NOTHING was done - I suppose it wasn't of media interest - yet they will investigate this because it might just get them some advertising!!
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Its a load of crap = most dog owners have done the same so we're all dog beaters now - im a dog beater, please someone help me!

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Most dog owners have hit their dogs?! I bloody well hope not. WTF do you think its acceptable to hit a dog with a stick?
 
Depends on the circumstances. If, like Edward was, you are trying to break up a fight it may be necessary to seperate them by giving a good smack. I have smacked a dog (a lab as it happens) for chasing sheep, an old riding instructor gave her GSD a smack on the backside with a whip for chasing her horses, which is acceptable imho, better than being shot by a farmer or kicked in the head by a horse.

Not that there is any evidence that he did anything more than scare them by waving the stick/hitting the ground etc, there's certainly nothing in the article to say he hit them. I suspect that he didn't as it doesn't state he did - in other words, they'd be done for libel if they printed it, so they've blown a bit of discipline all out of proportion and got the bunny huggers involved
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Muffinino - do you honestly think that one smack is going to have any effect on its behaviour? Yeah, sure beating a dog everytime it did something wrong would most likely have an effect (but of course, be totally cruel).

Please do not refer to anyone who chooses not to use brutal force against animals as "Bunny huggers". Its really rather silly TBH. I don't agree with anyone beating animals, especially animals smaller than ourselves. I just find it embarassing some people cant be bothered to correctly train their animals and would rather simply beat them into submission.
 
There is no photographic evidence to show Edward making contact with his dogs. However having been in the middle of fights where dogs have had an eye ripped out (was able to be popped back in) and a throat torn (superficially, thank God), I wouldn't criticise anyone for using moderate force to seperate them.

I hit my dogs a light slap across the withers with the end of a lead if they are endangering themselves and ignoring vocal commands. Gets their attention, so I can then reinforce with said vocal commands, and is nothing worse than their mother would have done when they were younger.

Not fantastic reportage by the paper. I wouldn't have been allowed away with it!
 
Yes, I do think a good firm smack the first time can modify an animal's behaviour - that lab and GSD never chased the sheep/horses again. I would never beat a dog, I cannot abide neglect and cruelty, but a firm smack at the time of the behaviour is acceptable and something a dog's mind can understand, imho.

The bunny huggers is in reference to the groups/commentators who jumped on this non story - truth is, Edward clearly did not hit those labs - to condemn him and his family for shooting/wringing a pheasant's neck/putting a dying pigeon out of it's misery.
 
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Its a load of crap = most dog owners have done the same so we're all dog beaters now - im a dog beater, please someone help me!

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Most dog owners have hit their dogs?! I bloody well hope not. WTF do you think its acceptable to hit a dog with a stick?

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Erm where does it show him hitting it with a stick? As far as I can see it DOESNT. It shows him threatening to hit them - big difference.

I have however, threatened my dogs with all manner of heinous items, including:
Books
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Slippers
Papers
Any other items close to me that make suitable projectiles.
 
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I have however, threatened my dogs with all manner of heinous items, including:
Books
Leads
Slippers
Papers
Any other items close to me that make suitable projectiles.

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Wow, you cruel person! Slippers is actually a favourite of mine too, andy they normally end up flying at the dogs head!

I actually hit evie the other day with a broom, which I suppose makes me a dog beater too. It was an accident mind - I was sweeping the yard, and she was 'helping', in her own special; way which consisted of pulling the brush out of my hands everytime I moved!
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I think it's ridiculous the way so called animal rights organisations jump on cases like this and scream 'cruelty', yet choose to ignore real cases of animal suffering.
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I am cruel! My OH tells me that earlier, my jrt was trying to dig the sofa so he turned round and shouted at her.
She then proceeded to stand up on her back legs and throw herself down on the sofa, as if struck! LMAO
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Evie does that with me now - I shouted at her the other day for jumping on the other dog (who has a bad back), now she automatically drops to the floor when she sees me. Of course, I am still preferable to my Mum - in Evie's eyes, I am the nice girl who lets her climb on the sofa, while Mum is the mean lady who shouts at her for being naughty! She has taken to just ignoring Mum now, and following me round in the **na na na, I can't hear you!** style!
 
Big hoohaha about nothing.
Just to divert a little I have no doudt that many horse owners on this forum at some time have administered a whack to their horse when all else fails.....or should we ban riding whips? Dog/horse..is there a difference?
Does that make us a target for 'animal cruelty charges'?
 
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Does that make us a target for 'animal cruelty charges'?

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No - because you're not a member of the Royal Family - or a 'celebrity' (or an MFH!) This 'case' is about publicity for the RSPCA in - particularly - the Mirror, the Sun and the Mail. The Mail - in particular - is a good paper for generating lots of donations! The Mirror is pretty left wing and anti the Royals anyway - and the Sun will run with anything that's a bit 'sensational'.

I suppose if Edward had done nothing - and the dogs had ripped each other to bits - he'd have been accused of 'dog fighting'!
 
On one hand dog owners are condemmed for allowing "Killer beasts" to roam the streets,on the other we are told we are not allowed to use the type of disipline we see as best fitting at the time when a dog does do something dangerous-Joe Public cant have it both ways!

I have smacked in the past and would not hesitate to smack dogs in the future.
All my family dogs (with exception of my mothers yorkie when its with her ) ARE well trained,loved and respected animals but they are expected to display good behaviour at all times,in all situations I dont htink that is too much to ask of dog that has been shown through kindness the right way to do things.I also think a wack from owner is far less wounding then what a dog will do to another in a fight and a smack is always better then letting them rip lumps off each other.
 
Noone has noticed he is walking around with his gun closed and probably loaded if shooting game. More worrying for the potential accident than weather or not he hit the dog (And I'd rather put a stick into a dog fight than my hands!!!!!!)

A knock to the end of the but of the gun could cause the firing pins to drop and BANG, shot foot/dog/floor/bystander.

One thing about game shooting that makes me uneasy. Other than that I fully support it.
 
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Noone has noticed he is walking around with his gun closed and probably loaded if shooting game. More worrying for the potential accident than weather or not he hit the dog (And I'd rather put a stick into a dog fight than my hands!!!!!!)

A knock to the end of the but of the gun could cause the firing pins to drop and BANG, shot foot/dog/floor/bystander.

One thing about game shooting that makes me uneasy. Other than that I fully support it.

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Well spotted - Crazymare. And I agree - lack of gun discipline if far more worrying.
 
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