StaceyTanglewood
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Have you had him DNA tested ???
Eek, I've just bought a stallion!!!
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welshcobabe
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Having read all this posts you come across to me as you know full well the risk you are taking and are prepared for the consquences good or bad.
I for one wish you well it is going to be an learing experiance for you and with horses we all learn something new all the time. The 'Experts' all had to start somewhere.
My family have bred welsh cobs for more years than I care to mention. Our Stallions runs with the mares on our land and we do have footpaths crossing and to date have had no problems. All ours are worked as normal in harness and under saddle they seem happy and content.
I wish you all the best.
I for one wish you well it is going to be an learing experiance for you and with horses we all learn something new all the time. The 'Experts' all had to start somewhere.
My family have bred welsh cobs for more years than I care to mention. Our Stallions runs with the mares on our land and we do have footpaths crossing and to date have had no problems. All ours are worked as normal in harness and under saddle they seem happy and content.
I wish you all the best.
BallyshanHorses
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well all i have to add is that the likes of cavalier royale was never fully approved by the irish horse board due to an injury and he became one of the best stallions to have ever stood in ireland.he left behind a fantatic legacy that is hard to beat.approved or not.think that your stallion should prove himself within reason due to his hock before even considering outside mares.if the resulting progeny are good enough they will make a name for their sire graded or not.only time will tell.
wonkey_donkey
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I think he's well worth a go at that money, particularly with the option to cut him and have him as a compo horse. Nothing ventured nothing gained - and not all of us have top money to spend !!!
Good luck and I hope you enjoy him.
Good luck and I hope you enjoy him.
Foxfolly
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Not wanting to keep on too much on this post as it got a bit hot under the collar....
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Have you had him DNA tested ???
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But why would I need him DNA tested?
We have his passport and also have spoken to Brendon stud who bred him and they have confirmed the injury he had and also that yes he was sold cheaply from them, in fact they knew what we were paying for him!
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Have you had him DNA tested ???
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But why would I need him DNA tested?
We have his passport and also have spoken to Brendon stud who bred him and they have confirmed the injury he had and also that yes he was sold cheaply from them, in fact they knew what we were paying for him!
Maggie2
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Because the passport does not actually prove the breeding, not saying this is the case here, but it has been known.
cruiseline
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I really can't understand why this thread has got so heated!!!!!
Foxfolly has bought a stallion, it is obvious that she knows what she has bought. She knows that he has had an injury in the past and the possibilities of him not passing a grading or maybe not staying sound in the future. She wants to use him on her own mares (which is her prerogative) She is not saying to anyone that they have to use him on their mares.
I think there are others on the board that use their un-graded stallion on their own mares, which they have every right to do, if that is what they want.
At the price she paid, even if she had him castrated she will still have purchased a very inexpensive horse, with good breeding.
I wish her luck with him and hope it works out.
Foxfolly has bought a stallion, it is obvious that she knows what she has bought. She knows that he has had an injury in the past and the possibilities of him not passing a grading or maybe not staying sound in the future. She wants to use him on her own mares (which is her prerogative) She is not saying to anyone that they have to use him on their mares.
I think there are others on the board that use their un-graded stallion on their own mares, which they have every right to do, if that is what they want.
At the price she paid, even if she had him castrated she will still have purchased a very inexpensive horse, with good breeding.
I wish her luck with him and hope it works out.
Fahrenheit
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I'm surprised the thread is still rumbling on tbh but to be fair in her opening post it didn't read as if she knew everything we later found out she knew, I think it started with genuine concern from what 'appeared' to be a lack of knowledge in the opening post which was soon rectified by the OP showing she did have the wits about her
and a concern about whom she was buying the horse from...
As far as I am concerned (because I won't speak for anyone else), she has said enough to show me she has satisfied herself that everything is in order with this horse including ringing the breeder so I wish the OP GOOD LUCK and welcome to the world of Stallion ownership, I hope eveything works out fabulous for you and your new boy
As far as I am concerned (because I won't speak for anyone else), she has said enough to show me she has satisfied herself that everything is in order with this horse including ringing the breeder so I wish the OP GOOD LUCK and welcome to the world of Stallion ownership, I hope eveything works out fabulous for you and your new boy
sam-b
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I would not have boughta horse from her, never mind a cheap stallion!
Amelia
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I really can't understand why this thread has got so heated!!!!!
Foxfolly has bought a stallion, it is obvious that she knows what she has bought. She knows that he has had an injury in the past and the possibilities of him not passing a grading or maybe not staying sound in the future. She wants to use him on her own mares (which is her prerogative) She is not saying to anyone that they have to use him on their mares.
I think there are others on the board that use their un-graded stallion on their own mares, which they have every right to do, if that is what they want.
At the price she paid, even if she had him castrated she will still have purchased a very inexpensive horse, with good breeding.
I wish her luck with him and hope it works out.
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Ditto ! Good luck Foxfolly and congratulations on your new purchase
I really can't understand why this thread has got so heated!!!!!
Foxfolly has bought a stallion, it is obvious that she knows what she has bought. She knows that he has had an injury in the past and the possibilities of him not passing a grading or maybe not staying sound in the future. She wants to use him on her own mares (which is her prerogative) She is not saying to anyone that they have to use him on their mares.
I think there are others on the board that use their un-graded stallion on their own mares, which they have every right to do, if that is what they want.
At the price she paid, even if she had him castrated she will still have purchased a very inexpensive horse, with good breeding.
I wish her luck with him and hope it works out.
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Ditto ! Good luck Foxfolly and congratulations on your new purchase
Amelia
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I would not have boughta horse from her, never mind a cheap stallion!
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Why ??? Do you mean from Brendon Stud ??
I would not have boughta horse from her, never mind a cheap stallion!
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Why ??? Do you mean from Brendon Stud ??
cruiseline
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I would not have boughta horse from her, never mind a cheap stallion!
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One of the best ponies I ever owned came from a dealer with a so called reputation!!!! (not that I am saying this dealer has a reputation, I personally don't know them) He went on to become a JA showjumper and was sold on many years later as a schoolmaster.
If you know what you are looking for and accept the risks, there is no problem. Once in a while people do end up with a bargain you know!!!!!
Ryans Son came from the meat man and we all know where he ended up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is it that some people are unable to just be happy for someone and hope that their hunch pays off!!!!!!!
I would not have boughta horse from her, never mind a cheap stallion!
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One of the best ponies I ever owned came from a dealer with a so called reputation!!!! (not that I am saying this dealer has a reputation, I personally don't know them) He went on to become a JA showjumper and was sold on many years later as a schoolmaster.
If you know what you are looking for and accept the risks, there is no problem. Once in a while people do end up with a bargain you know!!!!!
Ryans Son came from the meat man and we all know where he ended up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is it that some people are unable to just be happy for someone and hope that their hunch pays off!!!!!!!
wonkey_donkey
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No not the Brendon Stud, thinks she means from the dealer she has bought the stally from now.
Daisy11
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good luck with him
there is such as a cheap horse with good breeding
i brought my friesian mare in foal at the price of 1900
and both mum and son have good breeeding
mare out of ulbert390 one of top stallions out in the netherlands
and colt out of doaitsen 420
father of sire is wander who are both top stallions over in the netherlands and US
i will be using my colt for breeding if passes fps approval and must i add mum and baby are very healthy and strong with no problems
there is such as a cheap horse with good breeding
i brought my friesian mare in foal at the price of 1900
and both mum and son have good breeeding
mare out of ulbert390 one of top stallions out in the netherlands
and colt out of doaitsen 420
father of sire is wander who are both top stallions over in the netherlands and US
i will be using my colt for breeding if passes fps approval and must i add mum and baby are very healthy and strong with no problems
sam-b
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Am def refereing to the dealer who is selling the horse now.
laa666
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if he is anything like his dams sire Zarlequin now 19, you will have one of the kindest, sweetest and just wonderful natured horses, he is no trouble, and is stabled next to mares and foals.
FinnishLapphund
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The turning out with other horses question in your original post, made me think about two Harness racing stallions in Sweden some years ago. It is not unusual that several owners goes together and let their colts from yearlings to three years of age at least spend the summer together. They fight and decides their rank, but without the power of adult stallions. These two trotters met that way and ended up at the same trainer, standing in the boxes next to each other and they could be let out in the same field even after they had began being used in breeding (I don't know if it matters, but I think they was/is only used through AI).
But they knew each other very well and had established their rank towards each other years ago. I've also heard about an Icelandic stud in Sweden that had their stallions together with some geldings. But also in that case, all of those horses had in young years spent at least their summers in such colt groups and learned how to establish rank in a "sensible" way. The thought as I recall from those owners was that no one of their stallions was ever allowed to live with the mares and thereby maybe begin to believe that they had climbed in the ranks to be an adult stallion with own mares and that in the wild it isn't unusual with bachelor groups of stallions living together, without killing each other.
But these are exceptions, the most common practise in Sweden is that stallions lives alone or with mares. So I would say that you have to take him home and see how he is, but be prepared on that he might need to be turned out alone.
But they knew each other very well and had established their rank towards each other years ago. I've also heard about an Icelandic stud in Sweden that had their stallions together with some geldings. But also in that case, all of those horses had in young years spent at least their summers in such colt groups and learned how to establish rank in a "sensible" way. The thought as I recall from those owners was that no one of their stallions was ever allowed to live with the mares and thereby maybe begin to believe that they had climbed in the ranks to be an adult stallion with own mares and that in the wild it isn't unusual with bachelor groups of stallions living together, without killing each other.
But these are exceptions, the most common practise in Sweden is that stallions lives alone or with mares. So I would say that you have to take him home and see how he is, but be prepared on that he might need to be turned out alone.