Elasticated standing martingale.

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Anyone used one? Thoughts? And where to get one cheaply? Madam needs advising that ears up my nose it not a good position coming in poles/fences/anything vaguely exciting, and I dont want anything that puts pressure on her mouth
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Used an elasticated running martingale , which was quite short on my ex-intermeadiate horse as a 5yo as I kept getting his head smashing into my face - pretty painful! Seemed to work quite well. He jumped in it and went PN and Novice in it - so didn't restrict him

His 4yo sister is quite similar in attitude and lives in a sheepskin noseband for the minute! Which could be worth a try!

I'd suggest the noseband before the martingale.
 
Yeah i looked at the elasticated running as they are competition legal... just dont like the extra pressure they put on their mouths!
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Thanks re. the noseband. sounds a good idea...
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You could always use the elastic running at home as a standing & just switch back for comps, hopefully with them not twigging!
 
I'd go with a sheepskin noseband personally, or elasticated running martingale.

Elasticated standing martingales seem to be a bit of a fad with WH people over here at the moment, and I've never seen a horse jump or go particularly comfprtably in one.

Have you an old running martingale, I have a couple of saddlers fairly local who would easily insert a piece of elastic into an existing one - much cheaper if you aren't going to use it long term.

Must admit - we just ride F in a long (imagine US showjumper stype) running martingale - no pressure on her mouth, and only comes into play when her head goes stratospheric
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Fiona
 
Yeah have got loads of running martingales about! If I used a standing I wouldnt have it tight enough to have any effect unless her head was high enough for me to see her star
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Just to persuade her to look at her fences, as she doesnt seem to think she has too
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But yes, sheepskin noseband could have an effect... and have been riding her martingale-less as I am not a fan of runnings, but suppose its worth a try
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S has never been ridden with a martingale, we have managed to avoid it with her thankfully.

I would try the noseband first, then running martingale (and fingers crossed you only have to use it for a couple of months).

Fiona
 
I like elastic standing martingales. They work beautifully to get a message across especially if they are a bit rude with throwing their head up espcially if the schooling is a work in progress. I think they are really rewarding for young horses. I have never found a sheepskin noseband to make that much difference.
 
I ride mine in one. I much prefer them to running martingales now as they only do something if they are needed and seem less intrusive than a running martingale. Fitted properly they do not interfere. My horse has always been ridden in it and has won over £2k wearing it, so not that restrictive. The only time she hasn't worn one was when she was jumping under FEI rules as they are not allowed. Standings are legal for BSJA and show jumping.

I got my standing with elastic from Ebay, it was about £12. It isn't the best quality in the world, but it has lasted 2 years. It was also the only one I could find.

I would be careful buying the Kate Negus one as for my horse it is too short. The ones that clip on to breastplates all seem very short, I have a JW one at home I've never used. But it does fit my sisters horse that is a bit smaller.
 
We use an elasticated standing on Floss at home. She is prone to strops where she chucks her head up and stamps her feet. generally when she is asked to do something a bit harder in her flat work.

I like it because it doesn't interfere with the contact at all, unlike a running. It is fitted quite loosley so only comes into action to prevent B getting black eyes.

Floss has a very light, soft, nathe mouth so even the weight of running rings interfere with that.

Unfortunately PC are anti standings, which is a shame as they are great used correctly.
 
I find it so odd so many people are dead against them as they're pretty much standard equipment for young horses over fences for lots of North American trainers. Adjusted properly they really shouldn't interfere with jumping form unless you're at the point of doing huge jumps. As above, the point is they don't do anything unless needed but even the longest running will affect the contact simply through the weight on the rein. Not to say it isn't courses for horses but a standing is pretty benign.

Of course, that also means it doesn't actually "do" anything. If a horse isn't reacting correctly to the hand it won't help, it will merely prevent the rider getting his/her nose broken.
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With the usual qualifier that I'd longe in one first before just getting on and jumping in it. I've seen a frazzled horse hit the end of it, freak out and continue skywards.

Jeffries makes one with the extra leather piece in case the elastic lets go for some reason. I've also seen ones with inserts like a side rein and, in fact, customised one for a horse recently, using a side rein.
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Would the running go long enough? I've used a running for a standing before but I have found the length a limitation in some cases? I'd want to know before I bought, anyway.
 
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