Ellen Whittaker Banned From Driving!!! OOOOps

dynasty said:
She should have been sent to prison. Getting behind the wheel of a car while under the influence of drink or drugs is akin to handing someone a loaded gun and letting them have target practice. Giving these "celebrities" a fine means nothing it is just pocket money to them and a ban has no real effect as she has staff to drive her about. Should have got one of them to collect her that night! Look at the footballer who was driving a range rover and killed those two children and was out of prison leading a normal life after no time at all. The justice system is a complete insult to innocent victims
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I think the argument there would be intent. Someone going out with a gun is showing intent to do harm. Somebody who got into their car and drove under the influence is not necessarily intending to cause any harm (well, some do but that's a different story). I think it is appalling and I do think when someone has been injured or killed as a result of a driver being drunk then the penalty should certainly be tougher - that footballer case mentioned was horrendous and he should have faced a much harsher penalty.

It is not just drunk drivers who cause accidents though - many fatalities are caused by people in stolen vehicles, people falling asleep at the wheel and elderly drivers whose driving ability has decreased. In all cases it is horrible and preventable and the law is there to punish accordingly. I am sure it makes no difference to the family who has lost a loved one whether the person who caused it was a little old man forgetting what he was doing or a professional person who's had a couple of drinks and got behind the wheel. All equally tragic.

I reiterate again that i assume everyone who has shown such disgust on this thread and said the penalty was not harsh enough does not drink any alcohol cos i can pretty much bet if you do and have driven the next day you are quite likely to be over the limit and you could get stopped and be breathalised and deemed 'drunk'. You are then tarred with the same brush as Ellen essentially.
 
RunToEarth said:
The Whitaker family are all idiots though, I don't think anyone can deny it. I was with Louise a few years ago when Robert drove their HGV lorry back, with 6 horses on, after winning the cock o the north class, and sinking 8 pints.
Apparently it is a vicious circle, they never seem to learn.
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..so because of your experience with ONE family member, you can call them all idiots?

Ellen was indeed very foolish to do what she did, and Robert was a muppet obviously, doing what he did....

I think the older generation of that family are pretty sound people, the experience I have had.....
 
ladyt25 said:
I think the argument there would be intent. Someone going out with a gun is showing intent to do harm. Somebody who got into their car and drove under the influence is not necessarily intending to cause any harm (well, some do but that's a different story). I think it is appalling and I do think when someone has been injured or killed as a result of a driver being drunk then the penalty should certainly be tougher - that footballer case mentioned was horrendous and he should have faced a much harsher penalty.

It is not just drunk drivers who cause accidents though - many fatalities are caused by people in stolen vehicles, people falling asleep at the wheel and elderly drivers whose driving ability has decreased. In all cases it is horrible and preventable and the law is there to punish accordingly. I am sure it makes no difference to the family who has lost a loved one whether the person who caused it was a little old man forgetting what he was doing or a professional
person who's had a couple of drinks and got behind the wheel. All equally tragic.

I reiterate again that i assume everyone who has shown such disgust on this thread and said the penalty was not harsh enough does not drink any alcohol cos i can pretty much bet if you do and have driven the next day you are quite likely to be over the limit and you could get stopped and be breathalised and deemed 'drunk'. You are then tarred with the same brush as Ellen essentially.
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A few points.

1 "Someone going out with a gun is showing intent to harm" - in what context?
2 Anyone with a half brain will be aware of the depressive effects alcohol has the nervous system. To drink and drive proves they either have less than half a brain or they don't care.
3 A little old man, sober, or a drunk, young woman with more than half a brain. Decisions, decisions.
 
I have no real opinion of her as a person as i dont know her.
Her as a publicly identified drunk driver, i do have an opinion on, and its not a good one, what a selfish, dangerous thing to do, she deserves a hefty fine and a long, long ban, neither of which she got imo. Anyone convicted a second time needs jailed and banned for life
Where were her friends ?? Id never let any mate who'd been drinking,drive after drinking on a night out, even if i had to wrestle the keys from their hands
 
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