Endurance racing ban for world's top owner Sheik Mohammed
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lucretia
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'They' havent been caught 'again'. Lets get our facts right before slagging off the Maktoums who spend an enormous amount of money in this country, sponsor in more than one discipline and employ thousands of people in their many equine industies.
as i heard it a few days ago, it was the Sheiks own lab that discovered this prohibitted substance and he withdrew his horses immediately and voluntarily before the FEI had even had time to meet up and discuss it.
and the Sheik has imediately said he was the official 'person responsible' because they are his horses, although having worked for a branch of the family in the past i would imagine he employs people to look after the horses every need and probably has no more to do with their dayto day management than riding and visiting the stables occasionally to pat his favourites.
as i heard it a few days ago, it was the Sheiks own lab that discovered this prohibitted substance and he withdrew his horses immediately and voluntarily before the FEI had even had time to meet up and discuss it.
and the Sheik has imediately said he was the official 'person responsible' because they are his horses, although having worked for a branch of the family in the past i would imagine he employs people to look after the horses every need and probably has no more to do with their dayto day management than riding and visiting the stables occasionally to pat his favourites.
Silverspring
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Thank you, I hate the green eyed monsters that feel the need to take a swipe at the Maktoum's at any chance they get!
paulineh
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I am not a green eyed monster that is having a go.
Having ridden against and been involved with horses that have competed against them, I still stand by what I said.
The Endurance world Champion in 2004 was disqualified for drugs. If shak M had not checked his own horses then what would have happened. His wife is the president so she should know better.
If this had been anyone else then they would get banned for life.
This is not a human bearing BUT an animals life they are playing with.
The drug that was use will help the horse to have a lower pulse rate at vet gates.
Having ridden against and been involved with horses that have competed against them, I still stand by what I said.
The Endurance world Champion in 2004 was disqualified for drugs. If shak M had not checked his own horses then what would have happened. His wife is the president so she should know better.
If this had been anyone else then they would get banned for life.
This is not a human bearing BUT an animals life they are playing with.
The drug that was use will help the horse to have a lower pulse rate at vet gates.
lucretia
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yes but was it the maktoums responsible on that occasion and for your information, the FEI havent banned anyone for life for medication offfences in any discipline so that part of your argument is rubbish.
Further the point is that that Sheik Maktoum is so determined to have a clean sport, he did test his own horses and did not wait for the FEI to deal with it but voluntarily withdrew from competions pending further investigation. Sadly somebody probably didnt think he would a) test his own and then b) immediately raise his hand when the test came back positive.
Until all the facts are know i think it is better not to make detrimental comments about someone who does much good in the equine world.
Further i have worked for the family so i now the luxury the whole maktoum family keep their horses in so spare me the making the animal suffer arguement. I would rather be a doped horse in a Maktoum stable than a clean one in many others.
Further the point is that that Sheik Maktoum is so determined to have a clean sport, he did test his own horses and did not wait for the FEI to deal with it but voluntarily withdrew from competions pending further investigation. Sadly somebody probably didnt think he would a) test his own and then b) immediately raise his hand when the test came back positive.
Until all the facts are know i think it is better not to make detrimental comments about someone who does much good in the equine world.
Further i have worked for the family so i now the luxury the whole maktoum family keep their horses in so spare me the making the animal suffer arguement. I would rather be a doped horse in a Maktoum stable than a clean one in many others.
Onyxia
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I dont think I have anyhing to say now Lucretia
I thought it was very honerable of him to act as he did and would lik people not to throw stones at a man who has done the right thing to his own detriment...
I thought it was very honerable of him to act as he did and would lik people not to throw stones at a man who has done the right thing to his own detriment...
rocketdog69
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Bloody good on him to put his hand up I say!
Would love to be a fly on the wall when whoever looks after the horses gets his/her head ripped off. I wouldnt like to be on the receiving end of Sheik Mohameds wrath!!!
I think he's being really honourable about the whole affair!
Would love to be a fly on the wall when whoever looks after the horses gets his/her head ripped off. I wouldnt like to be on the receiving end of Sheik Mohameds wrath!!!
I think he's being really honourable about the whole affair!
Foxglove
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To be honest, when you see the list of banned substances, its a wonder more horses don't test positive.
I too have competed against him and have always found the whole team to be very professional. His involvement in endurance is probably one of the best things to have happened to the sport.
I too have competed against him and have always found the whole team to be very professional. His involvement in endurance is probably one of the best things to have happened to the sport.
Rambo
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I think he's one (at least !) steps ahead of the game...and the FEI on this one. He's implemented his own in-house testing regime, and come clean when he's failed his own tests. There is no finer, or more honorable person in the horse world in my opinion.
The thing i find incredibly hard to understand though is this....we will ban someone for x months because their horse (or they !) test positive for a 'drug' that is probably the equine equivilent of a strong pain killer...yet a professional footballer is allowed to represent their country after after having specific (cortisone) injections hours before a match to enable him to be able to perform...how does that work
The thing i find incredibly hard to understand though is this....we will ban someone for x months because their horse (or they !) test positive for a 'drug' that is probably the equine equivilent of a strong pain killer...yet a professional footballer is allowed to represent their country after after having specific (cortisone) injections hours before a match to enable him to be able to perform...how does that work
lucretia
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couldnt have put it better myself Rambo!
TarrSteps
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The argument is that horses can't choose but footballers can. I agree that's perhaps not an argument on the "fair play" front but I think it does hold some merit on the humane treatment angle. In the same vein that you can serve alcohol to consenting adults, even if they may or may not be "capable" of deciding if it's a good idea or not, but it's illegal to give it to kids under any circumstances.
lucretia
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oh i dont know about that Tarr, most horses I know are quite capable of deciding not to compete if they dont feel like it.......
TarrSteps
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Won't argue the point (although I'm not it's that simple) but I'm pretty sure horses can't make an informed decision on how/why/when they're medicated for the purposes of sport.
lucretia
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lighten up Tarr, i was joking.