Equ Streamz Bands

[Stenners]

Has anyone used these and have you had good results? I'm considering getting these for my horse who has coffin joint pain and intermittent lameness. I've tried most other things so have nothing to lose. Just intruiged to get peoples opinions.

 

[Nasicus]

Old thread if you're interested: http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/foru...treamz-Your-Experiences&highlight=equistreamz

Personally, if you've got the money to spare, and don't rely on solely them for pain relief, then hey, no harm done, just a slightly lighter wallet. If you were to use them in place of proven pain relief however, then that would be unfair to the horse.

 

[Red-1]

On a previous thread the owner of the company was rather cross at people scoffing at his product, and said he would send one free to anyone who wanted.

I thought it was a load of rubbish and would never have bought one, but I did PM him and ask for one of the promised free ones.

One was sent (a human one) and I wore it at night.

I don't really care if it was all in the mind or not, but I felt better.

Then, it stopped working. Hey Ho. I looked better at it and the inner had snapped!

That is strange. It did work, then when it was broken it did not.

It was a year old by then, been worn every night so I guess it breaking was acceptable. My biggest surprise was that it seemed to work.

I would therefore agree with the poster above. If you can afford it then why not? It can't hurt, and for me it did seem to make a difference.

 

[ycbm]

On a previous thread the owner of the company was rather cross at people scoffing at his product, and said he would send one free to anyone who wanted.

I thought it was a load of rubbish and would never have bought one, but I did PM him and ask for one of the promised free ones.

One was sent (a human one) and I wore it at night.

I don't really care if it was all in the mind or not, but I felt better.

Then, it stopped working. Hey Ho. I looked better at it and the inner had snapped!

That is strange. It did work, then when it was broken it did not.

It was a year old by then, been worn every night so I guess it breaking was acceptable. My biggest surprise was that it seemed to work.

I would therefore agree with the poster above. If you can afford it then why not? It can't hurt, and for me it did seem to make a difference.

Good point but placebo doesn't work on horses, only on the owner.

I'll buy one when clinical double blind trials that the makers won't do show that they work. That will be when hell freezes over, I guess.

 

[Ben2684]

I read the old thread, read the science bit. And I was dubious. But with a horse with a badly bruised foot that was taking ages to heal I thought what the heck, I’d spend £80 on a night out years ago so if they have a positive effect then why not. They have been on over a week and he is now sound and full of it. He feels great! Down to the bands? Who knows but I am going to try the human one and see if that makes a difference, old injuries plus a back condition I’m assuming if there is a positive effect then it will be noticeable, placebo or not

 

[Otherwise]

Good point but placebo doesn't work on horses, only on the owner.

Placebo works indirectly on animals though, the owners think the horse moves more free/ is less spooky/ concentrates better etc and then it is. I have wondered about girth trials and whether people change the way they ride as they think the new expensive girth will help the horse and then magically it does. Supplements, magnets, holograms a lot of it has no scientific basis and I personally couldn't own a company that happily conned people and took advantage of their desperation like some of them do but they've hit a gold mine. It's funny how expensive these things always are, I don't know if we've been trained to think it's expensive so it must work or what.

I personally wouldn't buy them, the science doesn't seem sound, and from the 3 horses I know who wear them not a lot has changed.

 

[MuddyMonster]

I've seen a difference in my horse since wearing them - so I'm pleased with them!

 

[ycbm]

Placebo works indirectly on animals though, the owners think the horse moves more free/ is less spooky/ concentrates better etc

Yes, exactly. You see the same effect with tack and untested supplements.

And some of the testing that it done is very suspect. There are two studies quoted in the Streamz site. 14 horses, randomly split, double blind trials where the people putting the bands on didn't know which ones were real. And the fake half got worse. Now why would that happen? However it happened, the sample was very skewed.

Likewise, the Fairfax girth was tested after the horse had already been ridden in its usual girth on the same day, and only once. And fitted longer. That's a dreadfully flawed bit of research.