EQUINE CRIME PREVENTION

KarynK

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Some words of wisdom from Hampshire Horsewatch

Stolen Horses are a horse owner?s worse nightmare. There have been a number of recent incident with thieves targeting Shetlands or perhaps similar in size.

Theft of horses is very difficult to prevent for all the obvious reasons. However there are deterrents to prevent thefts and importantly identify horses to owners and this is freeze marking. The decision to do so is with YOU the owner. As with all stolen property the item taken is invariably only worth something if someone is prepared to buy it. So as horse owners or someone thinking of buying one only do so if you know who you are buying from.

YOU - the community have it in your power to prevent many horse thefts by closing down the possibility of a sale. YOU know that at present Shetlands are being stolen......if you know someone who is selling, advertising for sale Shetlands make some enquiries and if needs be report the matter to the police. Genuine sellers of horses have nothing to fear. YOU the community are best placed to enquire and investigate on behalf of your fellow horse owners who may be the victims of a horse theft.

Always remember never to put yourself in any danger if enquiring into any matters. Gathering information and passing it on to the police or your county Horsewatch will be just as useful.

Another worrying trend following on from the theft of horses is that the thieves will contact the owners of the horse saying they know where the horse is or can arrange for its recovery. The owner is only too grateful to recover the horse that they will gladly give up money as a reward! If YOU should be in this position seek advice from your police. Always make sure YOU know who your investigating officer is so you can keep him/her informed.
 

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For those of you with stolen horses/tack etc please note:

Salisbury (Wiltshire) Livestock market are now having horse and tack sales on the first Friday of every month. It is apparently not being run the usual auctioneers and is hired by a third party for the event.

Can anyone with sales like this local to them please post the details here so victims of these crimes have an idea where to look and perhaps we can compile a comprehensive reference list.

Details here of the New Forest sales, which are very well attended by Hampshire Equine Liaison Officers!
http://www.newforestpony.com/beaulieu_road.html

 
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Regarding Vehicles

Please be sure to make a note of your trailer or Lorry's make model and serial number and keep it somewhere to hand.

Also take a photo of the whole trailer or Lorry and some showing any distinguishing features in close up, keep it somewhere safe just in case.
 
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we are experiencing thefts of tack all over at the moment especially here in suffolk, Suffolk police have kick started horsewatch which has already prevent several of my friends having their tack stolen just by giving them the heads up, postcoding is a very good idea i have all my saddles done!
 

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Do you know that the National Equestrian Database (NED) can reduce the chance of your horse being stolen and if it is stolen, increase the chance of it being recovered? Two very good reasons to associate with your horse in NED!

What to do - step by step

1) find your horse on NED and check that the basic information provided to NED by your passport issuer is correct, complete and up to date



2) associate yourself with your horse by clicking on "associate yourself with this equine"



3) check that all your horse?s security identifiers are correctly recorded; if a freezemark or microchip number is missing you can add it yourself



4) upload a clear photo of your horse



How does this help me?



If your horse is lost, stolen or goes missing on loan, being associated with your horse in NED allows you to immediately?



1) flag the horse as stolen or missing

2) add some detailed notes that might help identify your horse if anyone sees it

3) publish your contact details, so anyone with information can quickly let you know



Your horse will then also be clearly marked as lost or stolen on a NED Passport Check - so if someone is being offered your horse for sale ? alarm bells will ring.



NED features the most recently reported lost/stolen horse with a photo on its home page for every visitor to see, increasing the chance of a missing horse being found as quickly as possible. This has happened several times already, enabling missing horses to be returned.



NED also maintains a lost/stolen register which missing horses can stay on free-of-charge for as long as it takes to recover them.

Don?t delay, associate today at www.nedonline.co.uk
 
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I am the Crime Reduction Officer for Shepway in Kent and I cover 144 square miles which includes a large rural area.
My request is please report occurances of suspicious incidents and thefts. Many times I find attending premises people have not bothered to report things, if something is reported the police can act, something may be part of a crime trend.
Also mark all your property and where possible make it visible this reduces the resale value and often will put potential thieves off.
Thank you
 
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I think having signs around the yard/on gates clearly stating that horses are microchipped, and that all tack & vechicles are marked helps to deters thieves.

If you cant afford real CCTV, putting up dummy ones is a good idea, you can get ones that flash so they look realistic, just make sure where u put it is realistic too (& to replace batteries when they die)! - theifs aren't dumb and they'll most probably work out that certain areas/surfaces wont have an electrical supply :p

I also think changing the times you go up to see you horse, and how many times you go up, can help.
 
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P.s Ive had a couple of people walking their dogs up by my horse, which isnt a footpath, i've always challenged them, making sure they know for future that it isnt public, and ensuring i get their name, they dont normally like that bit! - but i tell them its for safety & to cover us both! Im thinking i now need to put up yet more signs so people know its PRIVATE! LAND!
 

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Hi all;

I have been working with the Ascot, Windsor and Maidenhead neighbourhood watch team on a new IP CCTV system, which you can watch your camera remotely from your own home or anywhere via the internet.

It also records images, sends alerts and many more functions. It uses the internet to send the images, like an ADSL line.

If you are interested in trying this system out let me know (pm), as I am looking for volunteers (beta testers), can provide up to 65% discount on kit and nearly zero monthly fees for the brave person.

The web address is www.kaduco.com

It is a new system, a start-up company, not a scam, if in doubt you can call the Windsor police station during the day and ask for Jeff P. (neighbourhood watch coordinator), and he will tell you all the above again.

I can provide a demo account details if you would like to try it before volunteering for it :) pm for the details.

All feedback welcome, pls.

Thanks

LG
 

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Hi,
A warning to people in the Brentwood, Essex area to be extra vigilant. My horse had his mane tampered with yesterday, it was cut and knotted, two other horses in my boys field also had there mane knotted.Please report anything you are not sure about however small it might seem.
 
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Hi. Just a tip really on peoples hay. We had loads of bales stolen last year from the yard and we now cut one string when we stack them, obviously the stack is then not as secure the higher you stack but the yard was targetted again last week and although they made a real mess in the hay barn they weren't able to steal much. Also our ponies are freeze-marked and chipped and have a sign from Farmkey stating they are marked but I couldn't find one from the micro-chipping company. I had some signs made up from a guy on Ebay, nice and cheap.
 

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One of my pals owns a tack shop and they have had a preview of a brand new NATIONAL !!!!!!!!! equestrian crime prevention service. Finally we hope the answer to protecting our belongings has been delivered by the National Equestrian Crime Database at www.necd.org.uk.

You simply register everything on their website and get unique numbers for everything you own from horses to horse boxes. If anything get nicked, apparently it can be tracked by everyone public and police...... You also get SMS alerts and you can even generate these to announce to all your local pals if you see any suspicious activity. It looks like high tech and a :Dreally clever service.

I am told early adopters can sign up in July and it goes really big in September.

WORTH A TRIAL DONT YOU THINK?
Wow - that sounds really great!
 
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One of my pals owns a tack shop and they have had a preview of a brand new NATIONAL !!!!!!!!! equestrian crime prevention service. Finally we hope the answer to protecting our belongings has been delivered by the National Equestrian Crime Database at www.necd.org.uk.

You simply register everything on their website and get unique numbers for everything you own from horses to horse boxes. If anything get nicked, apparently it can be tracked by everyone public and police...... You also get SMS alerts and you can even generate these to announce to all your local pals if you see any suspicious activity. It looks like high tech and a :Dreally clever service.

I am told early adopters can sign up in July and it goes really big in September.

WORTH A TRIAL DONT YOU THINK?
Sounds like complete rubbish actually.
Nothing is more identifiable than a post code, it costs nothing to put the mark on, it costs nothing to read it and you don't have to phone some call centre to identify it
If you sign up to Horsewatch/Countrywatch/ NHWatch many schemes have SMS and email notifications
 
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I agree. I am still at a complete loss to understand why people don't freezemark their horses and instead choose microchipping which IS NOT a visible deterrent. IMHO if the horse ain't marked don't moan when its nicked.
 
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From WHW website as I thought it might be of use/interest:

Sadly, horse thefts do happen, but there are things that owners can do to deter thieves.



Things you can do:



Ensure that your horse is freezemarked or microchipped: This is easy to arrange and your horse?s details are put onto a central computer. Most companies will offer discounts on group bookings, so if you?ve got a group of friends who need their horses chipped it's worth getting together because this may be more cost effective.



Keep your passport securely locked away: It is illegal to sell a horse, export a horse or present it for slaughter without a valid passport, so keeping this safe will help protect your horse.



Your passport also contains details of your horse?s markings, which will help the police with their identification process should your horse go missing. It?s worth taking some good quality photographs of your horse for identification purposes too. Make sure you take some at different times of the year ? just think how different your horse looks in the summer and the winter!



Keep your horse in a safe place: If you keep your horse at grass, make sure the gates are secure. Many people padlock one side but lots of gates can be lifted off their hinges. Simply putting another chain and padlock at the hinged end may act as a deterrent.



Unfortunately it is impossible to make premises completely secure, but World Horse Welfare Field Officer Jacko Jackson suggests some simple measures which can improve security for your horse:



* Look at where your horse lives. Examine the boundary - is it secure with solid fences and locked gates? Are there other owners in the vicinity who you could create a Horse Watch group with?

* Can you carry out or improve on any of the above? Can the horse be stabled at night? If so, the nearer to home the better. However, if you stable your horse it isn?t feasible to lock your horse in for fire reasons. This means you must look at the perimeter. Lights which are activated by passive infra-red sensors are a good investment.

* CCTV is becoming more cost effective ? if your stables are close to home they can be monitored from the house, or you could install an old video recorder at the stables, set to run during the night. This will show you who has been into the yard overnight.

* If electricity is a problem, go to a car breakers and find an old battery, car horn, a door light switch and an old headlamp. Discreetly connect these up to the gates or even the stable or tack room doors, so that as soon as they are opened the lights and noise are activated (remember to fit an isolation switch for the daytime).

* It is also possible to modify a domestic alarm system for stable use, but it is important to use door contacts rather than sensors to avoid false alarms. Should your budget allow, you could consider active infra-red beams covering the approach to the stables; these can be connected to a radio transmitter and provide a silent alarm to your house.

* Last but not least, a dog may not be very high-tech, but very effective!
 

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The problem with passports and m/chips is that chips can be dug out (poor horse) and replacement or dup. passports can be applied for.

In France we have a second ownership document which should be kept separate from the passport. This paper is returned to Haras Nationaux every time a horse is sold. So the central database for all horses in France has a record of ownership. This paper is 'proof' of ownership.
 
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I am the Crime Reduction Officer for Shepway in Kent and I cover 144 square miles which includes a large rural area.
My request is please report occurances of suspicious incidents and thefts. Many times I find attending premises people have not bothered to report things, if something is reported the police can act, something may be part of a crime trend.
Also mark all your property and where possible make it visible this reduces the resale value and often will put potential thieves off.
Thank you
HI
NEW to this forum need advice on situation with my sisters horse missing /sold without consent police not interested.
 
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The problem with passports and m/chips is that chips can be dug out (poor horse) and replacement or dup. passports can be applied for.

In France we have a second ownership document which should be kept separate from the passport. This paper is returned to Haras Nationaux every time a horse is sold. So the central database for all horses in France has a record of ownership. This paper is 'proof' of ownership.
So basically a this Haras Nationaux have a record of every sale? I like that Idea!
 
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I would second this, particularly the freezemarking. Not to freezemark a horse is in my humble opinion a really stupid argument and I can't understand why all owners don't do this as a matter of course. Each of my horses have been marked within two weeks of purchasing them. They are too precious to me to end up in some one else's stable or swinging from a meat hook if what we sometimes hear is to be believed. PLEASE PLEASE FREEZEMARK TODAY.

I had a rug painting sess the other day and did all my rugs! i don't care if my horse looks 'uncool'. He is safe and that is all that matters to me. I love him too much to lose him or take the risk of losing him. If he were to be stolen at least I know I had done all I could to protect him.
 

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I was invited to attend the launch of a new equine crime database product yesterday and would like to say that, having been at the press launch and heard what they had to say, it sounds like a very good product, apart from the fact that you can register centrally all your horses, tack, trailers etc , they have an option on their website to enter the ID, registration number or mark or any sort of identifier of anything you think might appear to be suspicious and you will be able to see instantly if it has been reported stolen, you are also able to post alerts about suspicious activity and also many other topics, for example icy roads or contagious disease outbreaks, anything posted will also be sent via text or email to any registered members within a 10 mile radius of the reported location, this is a completely free service you dont have to sign up to do it and you can do it via mobile also. it plans to work in conjunction with all existing databases and the police force and is widely supported by several equestrian ambassadors and organisations already, Horsewatch, Jenny Loriston Clarke, RDA, AMTRUST, the BEF, to name but a few. if anyone is interested their website is NECD.org.uk. it was a very interesting day!............ and before you ask, no, i dont have any links to them, i just think it is an interesting new idea.
 
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Hi i have just got my own stables and land and i would like to put up some signs on the gate warning people that there is some sort of horse watch going on not sure if there is ? i have seen gates with Rural watch on them i have emailed out local group but had o reply !

So could anyone point me in the right direction please.:)
 
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Do you know that the National Equestrian Database (NED) can reduce the chance of your horse being stolen and if it is stolen, increase the chance of it being recovered? Two very good reasons to associate with your horse in NED!

What to do - step by step

1) find your horse on NED and check that the basic information provided to NED by your passport issuer is correct, complete and up to date



2) associate yourself with your horse by clicking on "associate yourself with this equine"



3) check that all your horse?s security identifiers are correctly recorded; if a freezemark or microchip number is missing you can add it yourself



4) upload a clear photo of your horse



How does this help me?



If your horse is lost, stolen or goes missing on loan, being associated with your horse in NED allows you to immediately?



1) flag the horse as stolen or missing

2) add some detailed notes that might help identify your horse if anyone sees it

3) publish your contact details, so anyone with information can quickly let you know



Your horse will then also be clearly marked as lost or stolen on a NED Passport Check - so if someone is being offered your horse for sale ? alarm bells will ring.



NED features the most recently reported lost/stolen horse with a photo on its home page for every visitor to see, increasing the chance of a missing horse being found as quickly as possible. This has happened several times already, enabling missing horses to be returned.



NED also maintains a lost/stolen register which missing horses can stay on free-of-charge for as long as it takes to recover them.

Don?t delay, associate today at www.nedonline.co.uk
I tried this but it wouldnt work as it didnt recognise my horses passport number or name.....my horse has a belgian passport any ideas how i get round this as id really like to register?!
 

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does anyone have any info on a good reasonably priced cctv package that will work from battery and record onto a sd card? we dont have electric at the yard my other half has had large amounts of diesel stolen during the nights so we are looking into the cameras must have motion sensors, night vision, record to sd card be batt operated, and be descrete would be good if we could find a package with at least 3 or 4 cameras with it, or any other suggestions for securing rural yard many thanks
 
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