Equine psychic... Had to share

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My YO had this young woman come today: Has this gift of telepathy with horses and she wanted to show her her brood mare who's depressed and doesn't get over her filly being weaned + a livery's very anxious mare + 5 yo who's very easily scared and very immature + a couple of others....

To make a long story short and explain how this woman does it: She first stays with the horse a long while, "listens" to him/her, ask questions, etc... and takes notes of everything. Then she sees the owner and tell them what the horse feels and "says".

Eventually she asks the owner to go tell the horse something that he/she needs to hear from them (i.e. anxious mare said to her that she didn't know her owner loved her...). Or she tells owners what they should change in their relationship to make horse feel better.

I was amazed
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had heard stories about her and she actually said loads of truths about these different horses without getting any prior info on them.

I know that what it boils down to is listening to your horse, TLC and common sense but it's just her way of doing it that left me speechless...

Thoughts or similar experience anyone ?
 
I am very sceptical about these 'psychics'. I had a reading done on a photo of Marius by a woman who had been recommended by people on HHO, and there was not one thing in the reading that was correct.
I believe that the lady that you saw would be doing the same as a 'fortune teller', i.e. doing a reading of the owner and feeding back the things she discovered by talking to her. So-called psychics are very skilled at this, and the client does not realise that it's being done.
Do you really, truly, believe that a horse needs to be told, in words, that the 'owner loves her'?
 
I am as skeptical as you MM, the thing is she didn't talk to the owners before seeing their horses and everything she said about the horses was bang on...

I don't think a horse "needs to be told " anything, I'm just wondering... We humans are so ignorant about the horses we condition to do all these things that are unnatural to them and the way they perceive our moods, ups and downs, etc... is so mysterious !

Caroline, are you saying I'm being a naive and gullible old fart ?
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I was open minded but sceptical until I met the late Julie Dicker.
We asked her to come and see a horse who had been dumped on us by a bad payer, and she arrived smiling and friendly, but asked no questions at all about him.
She looked over the door but didn't enter at first, and said he is in some pain from an old scar in his chest. I looked at her as if she was mad, as to our knowledge he had no such thing. "Feel deep into his chest on the right and you can feel it" and b***r me, there it was, a massive hard lump not visible form the outside at all.
She came in, and after putting her hands on him which he obviously adored as he virtually lay against her with pleasure, offered him numerous herbs to see his reaction. It was so odd to watch, as some he nodded his head at and nuzzled, others he turned completely away as if in disgust. She recommended we use certain ones and sure enough, he regained his bounce and improved.
I was so impressed we had her out to the next horse which again, she fixed it's back spasms. As she walked past my daughter's pony's stable she said "Mickey wants me to tell you he's sorry he took the blue whip, but he was worried you would hit him next".
Now that related to an incident several weeks previously when I had been lungeing an idle horse int he ponies field. he wouldn't go forward so I had tickled him with the whip behind the girth a few times. I stopped, dropped the whip on the floor and walked to the off side to tighten a side rein a hole, and quick as a flash the pony darted in, picked up the lunge whip in it's mouth and cantered off to the far end of the field, dropping it well in the nettles.. I cursed him and retrieved it, but there had been no witnesses and I had never mentioned it to anyone at all.
I can cite several similar occasions when she mentioned things that couldn't have come from anywhere else but communicating with the animal not the human.
We talked about her gift and she said she saw in pictures not words as such, and as a child had kept very quiet for fear of ridicule.
Funnily enough I hadn't really thought about her at that much at all since she died apart from wishing she hadn't, until this week when she was in my dream and told me to let our mare go now, she wasn't going to get better.
I'm enough of a believer to think it was her sending me a message, and it strengthened our resolve that what we were doing was right.
I'm sure there are cheats and con artists, but if you meet a genuine healer (she hated being called a horse whisperer!) they soon prove to you they are genuine.
She wrote a book if you can get hold of it, a bit whimsy in places for my taste but it does explain her work.
I'd stay open minded if I were you...
 
Suppose for a moment horse psychics talk to one another (over the internet lets say) and exchange information with each other about their clients, so that if you have used one psychic they are likely to have passed on your details to another, while also employing people to visit yards, ask questions, dig around a bit in advance of the psychic's visit...would that explain it all?

It seems to me that if horse psychics were con artists that is exactly what they could do.

P.S. Henryhorn I am genuinely sorry about your mare passing away but I really have to ask how did Mickey manage to see that the whip was blue when horses only see in shades of black and white????
 
Precisely what I'm going to do hh, stay open minded and see if the horses she's seen change in any way and for the better (with their owners' cooperation of course)

This girl doesn't call herself a whisperer, doesn't even make a business out of it. She says she discovered her "gift" with horses a couple of years ago and went into depression because of it, until someone encouraged her to use this gift of "hearing" a horse's feelings. She only does it a couple of times a week with a renowned equine osteopath who says he still can't believe what she achieves with horses...
 
Until a couple of months ago I probably would have responded with 'b******s!!
But our chartered physio who works regularly on my daughter's jumping pony was chatting last time she was working on the pony and we got on to this subject - mainly about how these 'horse communicators' ripped people off - and she told me the only thing that put doubts in her mind was a woman from Scotland who a couple of her clients and a friend had used and from the story she told me this woman sounded genuine - she had come up with amazing things that she couldn't possibly have known. So must admit am a little more open minded now!
As far as horses only seeing in black and white goes I thought that theory had been misproven? - I wish they did though we need never worry about brightly coloured fillers again!!
 
I think it's a bit far fetched to expect all horse psychics to talk to one another and swap details! They would need amazing memories and that's assuming that only the same people use psychics, jumping from one to the other for a reading!! Nice example though (and I'm sure Derek Acorah uses the same technique!)

Also in reply to the question above asking if a horse really needs to be told that their owner loves them - I think that people also need that reassurance sometimes. I might sound like I've been round the block a few times, but come on ladies, how many of you have felt as if your other half has taken you for granted and all you want is for him to show a little bit of affection, but the football is on and there's a six pack in the fridge? I bet horses and dogs and cats feel the same sometimes too.

I am still sceptical about psychics, but I have twice asked a lady I know to help me and without seeing either me or the animals (one cat and one horse) she gave me stunning and accurate readings just from photos submitted via email, on both, that bowled me over. I also got a reading many years ago from a psychic with a gypsy background, through one of the horsey magazines (Your Horse or Horse & Rider, one of those type). She was going to be available at their offices on a certain day and readers were invited to phone her, free of charge. Without even a photo of my mare to go by, she told me things about her that she could not possibly know - about the mare being overweight for a TB (over zealous feeding on my part after strangles hit our yard 5 months earlier) and there being no water trough in the field (at the time the horses were being herded into another field twice a day for access to water). She could not have known either of those things. But I wish I could remember who she was, she was very good.

Still sceptical - perhaps I dont want to admit it to myself!!
 
I think this is really interesting - I've had experience of it and was amazed at what the woman said, without having been told anything about the horse. Rationally I think it can't be and yet the other part of me thinks 'there are more things in heaven and earth ...'
 
I would LOVE someone to have a chat with PF and A to make sure they're happy with me and how I look after them. I'd love to know more about A's past and why he was so angry when I first met him (although I've got a pretty good idea why) More than that I'd like to talk to them both and tell them (in case they didn't know) that I'll always look out for them and never let anyone hurt them.
HOWEVER, I am very very sceptical about psychics of any sort so that may never happen
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I was sceptical too - used a lady who had been recommended on here, emailed photo and got a reply - not that accurate but you could read a few bits into it which fitted.

However, earlier this year my horse suddenly had an aversion to anything larger than a transit van - putting me on the floor twice and frightening both of us. We went back to basics which including long reining on the roads and meeting as many lorries etc as possible.

After not seeming to get anywhere and out of desperation - clutching at straws - I found a local(ish) animal communicator and arranged for a telephone call. I didn't tell him anything that had happened and rang him at the appointed time. I was standing in the stable with my horse whilst on the phone and the first thing he told me was that the horse had sore knees (the second time he threw me he went down on the road and grazed his knees). He then proceeded to tell me what had happened, including the fact that it had been very windy and the wind was up the horses backside, what really freaked me out was that he told me the colour of the lorry (and it wasn't a common one for where I am).

He also got me to stand behind the horse, on a bucket so that I could see down his spine, and told me that his hips were level but he was slightly down on his nearside shoulder, well I about fell off the bucket as he was.

This gentleman also does Reiki healing so I arranged for him to come and do a home visit, it was an interesting experience and one which I believe my horse enjoyed.

Sorry this is long winded (very) but I do think that this person has a gift but agree that there are a lot of people out there that are willing to take advantage.
 
I went to see a medium recently....more as a bit of fun than anything else. My horse that died 7 years ago came through, and he was able to relay stuff to me that noone else could have known about. He knew that I sat and cradled him for hours once he was gone.

If it did anything, it reassured me that Ben knew I loved him more than anything else in the world. That makes my heart feel warm. I would hate to think it wasnt true!!
 
The yard I worked at had a "faith healer" out. I have to say the stuff she came out with sounded complete cr@p! I was even more doubtful of her "ability" when he recommended that one of the horses should be moved to her yard and kept on livery there whilst she 'healed' him
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One of the horses had a sarcoid the owner wanted her to 'heal', but obviously he wasn't keen on pointing it out to her, as she couldn't find it!!

I had to hold the horses whilst she worked, and it was all I could do to keep a straight face.

I've heard stories from my friend of readings she has had done on her horses, and she has been amazed by the accuracy, she was a complete cynic before. One of the girls that did it was there for something completely unrelated and just asked if she could have a go, no charge.

But I'm afraid until I come acros one for myself, I am a cynic.

It's the money aspect that makes me cynical. The women that came to the yard seem very keen for the owner to spend her cash. I understand people make a living, but surely the horse's welfare is top of their agenda...
 
I've had experience of two ... the first was a very well-known horse whisperer who was asked to come to the yard by another livery. I thought I might as well get him to 'talk' to my two while he was there - nothing to lose. Frankly it was all very bland stuff - my old horse has navicular and, even with me saying nothing, it was easy to spot that he had a problem with remedial shoes on both front feet - so it wasn't a surprise to be told he was lame in front ... He then went on to say the horse would be sound in six months' time. That was 4 years ago and I'm still waiting.

The second was a 'psychic' used by a friend of mine with a TB who had huge issues with just about everything. The psychic told her all sorts of stuff about his prior history, mainly relating to burning pyres of cattle carcasses in 2001. It kind of made sense until my friend got in touch with the people who owned the horse in 2001. He'd never been anywhere near any place with FMD, certainly never seen pyres unless he'd been watching TV.

I'm half-sceptical, half wanting to believe there are people who can genuinely communicate with horses.
 
I never really believed in it until I had a rather scarey situation with my old horse, I got a phonecall from a friend at 7.30am to say that her psychic frind had called to say that a horse called what mine was called had colic (neither me nor horse had met friend) I disbelieveingly went to the yard on my friends insistance and found pony colicing badly and it took 2 days to sort him. Psychic told me he had stomach problems from his past where he hadnt been looked after very well, he died a few years later from colic and was diagnosed as having severe long term worm damage.

After hearing about these people http://www.reikicare.co.uk/html/work1.htm I decided to go along and see what it was all about (A friend had went previous and found it to be a wonderful experience) I did the one day workshop and was astounded by it all and what it is possible to do. I'd suggest anyone who is curious and wants to learn more give it a go.

Can I also add I am a 'normal' person, not a vegetarian hippy bitless treeless barefoot parelli tree hugger as some assume you need to be to do it...!
 
Lots of interesting stories on here whether good or bad, which sums it up really: Con artists as well as genuine "equine shrinks", mediums, psychics, whatever... are around and my open mind can't wait to see if anything interesting comes out of this girl's visit to our yard.

Will update as I know these horses very well and will notice if any significant changes in them.
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I was among the sceptical ones till I got a woman out to see my old horse as she was coming to the yard to "do" quite a few.

I was completely stunned when she said "has this horse pulled a cart?"
Well we did a lot of driving, but at that point she was retired from driving, didn't look like your typical driving horse, there was NO driving parnaphelia around...I was gobsmacked.
I still don't know how the hell she knew.
But the other amazing thing was the horse's behaviour changed. More mellow, more friendly, more relaxed.
It was quite uncanny.
 
I am sorry I am just not convinced! A couple of thoughts:

- if the psychic asks questions, respondents are more likely to remember the ones that are correct and forget the wrong ones, so if I send a load of plausible and general inquiries in your way, "this horse has had a difficult past, hasn't it?", "you two have come a long way together, haven't you?", "she used to have a different job, didn't she?", etc. it's really easy to pick the right ones and continue down the right track (people do it quite openly on TV for entertainment!).

- of course psychics talk to each other!!!!! The whole idea of mediums was initially restricted to groups that had good general contacts to keep in touch with each other and exchange information, like Romany Gypsies, but strong boundaries to the outside! In any case, nowadays five minutes on google tells you so much about someone you hardly need to bother with hiring someone to follow them.

- I am unclear what the psychic does. If Michey did not say "the blue whip", then he must have (somehow) transmitted a mental image of the entire episode to the psychic, so that she could see it for herself. This theory gives the horse amazing powers of recollective memory (much better than humans have) and makes you wonder why psychics are so vague in their pronouncements, if they can see the whole thing as it happened.

- Why do horses always have nice things to report back, such as "I didn't know you love me", "I had a tough life but it's all better now with you" and similar stuff. Are there seriously no horses out there who want to communicate "I really dislike you and the idea of ownership altogether and would rather be re-located to a release-into-the-wild facility".
 
I believe that there's people that could "talk" to animals, by the real thing/gift. But the majority of persons that claims they can talk to animals are fraud, in some cases, being very good at reading bodylanguage/getting owner to reveal more than they realize.

I don't mind if someone says they think a horse might have ADHD, due to certain behaviour, but if they say : The horse says he/she thinks they have ADHD, and wants me to believe, that the horse have given themselves a human medical-diagnosis, they loose me as a believer.

I know nothing is free-from-idiots-guaranteed, but still when you see pictures of a horse where you, more or less, could count every bone in it's body, dull eyes etc, because the horseowner have been in contact with an equine "something" that convinced them that the horse "Still had the desire to live" and "His spirit where still fighting" (in my ears) = as long as the poor creature is alive I get paychecks...
And I only blame the owners for lack of common sense, citypeople who hadn't even owned a hamster, before deciding to become horseowners. That equine whatever-she-was must have heard the chink in her pocket as she saw them coming.

But I do believe there's more going on than we know, once my mother swears, I was out in the garden helping her with the dogs, I even answered her, but I know I was indoor making beds the whole time...
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Sorry Booboos, can't find anything about myself on Google! I've not got Myspace, Facebook, Bebo or anything like that. There are some Americans with the same name, but I can't find out anything about myself!!
 
There's an old joke along the lines that if psychics were REALLY psychic wouldn't they be calling you?
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I think what's really interesting is the number of people who are "good with horses" who DON'T talk fully about what they experience or even don't really understand/acknowledge it themselves. It's not necessarily a pleasant situation to be experiencing - or even think you're experiencing - something which other people aren't, let alone something many people view with scepticism or derision. And I suspect some people don't even know/acknowledge what they sense/feel isn't "normal" as they've never been any other way. I do think people might be surprised.

There are more things in heaven and earth . . .

Of course, that doesn't mean anyone has to believe anything and it isn't a reason not to use things like common sense, good practice, and rational analysis. It's all just information - it's what you do with it that counts.

As far as the "proof" there's no such thing being that it doesn't always work or that not everyone claiming the "talent" actually has it . . .well, veterinary medicine doesn't always "work" in every case but that doesn't stop people from believing in it or seeing the benefits. It just means people - hopefully - don't see it as some perfect, infallible, "magical" solution and that it's evident not every practitioner has the same level of skill/talent.
 
good posting tarrsteps and couldn't agree with you more. As a professional ac I have no problems with sceptics, infact I think a certain amount of scepticism is healthy. It's more about being open minded to possibilities then we don't shut ourselves off to what might just be true :-)

And yes some people specialise in different areas but then we'd be boring if we were all the same.
 
I think many of you will already be aware of the trouble I've been through lately with Boo - It was through using an animal communicator (Jackie Weaver) that we were able to get to the bottom of the problems. Via Jackie, Boo described exactly where the pain was, what was causing it etc etc... When I saw the Xrays I turned a very funny colour, as they were exactly as Boo had said they would be.
I am happy to speak in more detail about my experience if anyone is interested, but I don't want to be seen as trying to 'convert' the sceptics - I was very sceptical until I reached that point where I felt I had nothing to lose.
 
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