Equine rehoming......from post below

The problem here is there is a clear distinction in the way we work as a registered association with back up of professional bodies and they way the site some of you are mentioning work so please don’t get us confused.

Unfortunately we can’t mention names of websites without the posts being pulled but I am in no way associated with the one beginning with (Free), where ucmeicu is from.

As some of our horses are real rescues we may not succeed in rehabilitation, the horse we lost last week was not adopted by anyone he was in our care and after over £1000 of the association’s money we had to have him PTS.

Another one EG mentions got sick on the journey but was fine before travel, he came from a racing yard, unfortunately it was just very very sad he became ill due to travel (no ones fault).

The 3 rd one was one we wish we could change, he was more emaciated than we realized so we would have paid to PTS where he was if we had known, the vet had seen him and he was starting his road to recovery but unfortunately after a freak accident in the stable he went down and didn’t have the energy to fight.

I have no problem discussing this as we are an honest association we do the best we can out of the resources we have, we have also paid for horses to be PTS at home that we knew didn’t have a quality of life but those that do we find homes for them with a re homing fee of around £100-£500.

We don’t buy and sell horses the horses remain the property of the association therefore if they are not what they appear to be they come back, it’s as simple as that. We list any faults that we are aware of as we want to be straight with everyone believe me it doesn’t benefit us at all to have to keep arranging transport to move horses and go and go and do further home checks etc

Unfortunately the people that do deal horses under the guise of rescue should be ashamed of their selves and to come on here preaching about the fact we don’t have 100% successes rate after some of the stories I have heard about people with broken backs and horses bucking people off is an absolute disgrace!

ucmeicu take your blind fold off and look closer to home at what you are associated with rather having a go at others, you have lost any credible support you had with a certain rescue charity, your website gives others a bad name.
 
i also noticed bank end rescue from here is a member of the "free" one.
who was highly thought of on here until getting "caught out"
 
Troubleshere said:
The problem here is there is a clear distinction in the way we work as a registered association with back up of professional bodies and they way the site some of you are mentioning work so please don’t get us confused.

Unfortunately we can’t mention names of websites without the posts being pulled but I am in no way associated with the one beginning with (Free), where ucmeicu is from.
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I would be grateful if you could PM me the name of your organisation. I have no problem with rescue charities in the true sense of the word. In fact, after we lost Monty, we had decided that if I didn't get into vet school I would take on another veteran since I had the time and space to give a home to an equine in need.
 
Another quick point how we differ from "Free" any horse that we are aware could be dangerous to ride can not be rehomed through our association as a ridden horse if at all, as this would breach our insurance (we actually have insurance) ucmeicu do you?
 
zsmm4 said:
Definately better to have them shot or injected to PTS at home. But, if you do that the fluffy bunnies will abuse you on here. You cant win,sell them and its wrong,have them shot and its wrong,loan them out and its wrong........................................
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Ahh yes

QUOTE=zsmm4;8545519]I guess its time for me to not have horses. TBH i've been fed up with feeding and mucking out for a few years now,I dont compete anymore. I am currently horseless, a few months ago my OH horse broke its leg and I had mine shot too whilst the knackerman was here. Was just fed up with her, I'd owned her for 4 years and we'd never gelled. In the current market she wasnt worth much so no point in putting up with the hastle of people coming to view and wasting time. I've been thinking of getting another,looking at adverts, but its just habit,because its what I've always done,and owning my own land ,well I might as well have a horse sort of thing. But I really think I wont bother any more. Its now a matter of pursading Husband that I dont want a horse, its mainly him that wants the thing about the place.[/QUOTE

I replied rather crossly to this and if that makes me a fluffy bunny/bunny hugger etc etc then so be it. To destroy an animal because you are 'fed up with her' is an abomination.
 
Well have to say I do find that post a bit shocking and I don't consider myself a bunny hugger. I didn't see the thread, was it someone trolling, seems a very provocative post, however I have actually posted that I might do something similar. Briefly, i have a 30 + donkey who is devoted to my cushings pony, if separated even briefly he stresses terribly, won't eat etc. If the cushings becomes too much for the pony and she has to be pts I feel it would be kindest to the donk if he went too. He has a few health problems himself and I just don't think it would be fair to keep him. Sorry for hijacking the thread.
In fact my donkey had been "rescued" by his previous owners, sadly they had no idea how to look after him, he had never been handled or had his feet trimmed in the year or more they had him. It took time to get him right, but as I have now had him for 23 years I think we have got there.:D
 
MurphysMinder said:
Troubleshere, it sounds like you are doing things responsibly, i.e. home checks, follow ups etc. Can I ask roughly how much your fee is, because one of the things that does annoy me is how some sites can charge an "adoption fee" of £1000. :eek:

Oh and Cae cain, why would anyone envy you?
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As said, some "charities" seek a £1000 donation, non refundable when they seize the horses back which seems to happen with a certain charity soon to be revealed.

Also I have a problem with "charities" that sell horses when clearly stating that they don't and then an owner who signed over her horse receiving a letter from the Charity stating it was sold as a valuable asset, shame it doesn't show up in the annual accounts!!!
 
I would help any equine in need or a rescue. I hate to see horses that are healthy put to sleep. Call me a bunny hugger or anything else.
I think organisations which help rescues should be admired for their fantastic dedicated
work, not criticised.
Any horse that comes to me as a home for life. I wouldnt pass on an elderly horse, its not fair imo, I would prefer to see them in a happy retirement home. I completely understand the post from the lady with the two rescues hoping that they go naturally too. I had my old mare put to sleep after I had her 10 years, only because she went off her legs and couldnt get up one night in the field. It was the worst experience of my life. Even though she came from the market at Dartford tunnel and was alot older than what I thought when I bought her. But one thing I can say happily, is that I seen her life out with her and although I couldnt always ride her due to arthritis, I loved her and spending time with her.
so I completely understand why people rescue horses, and give them permanent homes.
I know the immense satisfaction from it. Horses have all got such wonderful personalities and to me they are more like people. They are so individual. Just because you they might not be rideable, in my book shouldnt mean they cant offer the same friendship and I think people are just too commercial and competitive nowadays and the horses welfare often suffers.
 
tamba you do not qualify as a bunny huggy and you have to be aplauded in your actions, and thoughts.

A bunny hugger is one that probably has little experiance with horses except don't they look cute, is gullable and prepared to line the pockets of an orgainisation mascarading as rescue which pass on 3 legged, unhealthy animals with behavioal issues for heavily inflated sums which truthfully could properly rescue two or three healthy animals with no issues but are still unlucky enough to end up in the meat chain. Infact the thinner the animal more the bunny huggers crave to save it, and the more they are taken for a ride!

Consequently these bunny huggers find out very quickly how they are not equiped financially or mentally to look after these lame and/or psychologically damaged horses and suddenly find hugging the bunny has lost its appeal.

there lies my definition of a true bunny hugger :)
 
MHOL said:
As said, some "charities" seek a £1000 donation, non refundable when they seize the horses back which seems to happen with a certain charity soon to be revealed.

Also I have a problem with "charities" that sell horses when clearly stating that they don't and then an owner who signed over her horse receiving a letter from the Charity stating it was sold as a valuable asset, shame it doesn't show up in the annual accounts!!!
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Just looked and EHPPS ask up to £800 for a rideable horse

The one to which you are referring however I think I can guess as its accounting leaves much to the imagination and I am very sad that it has been accepted as a member of NEWC.
 
lannerch said:
tamba you do not qualify as a bunny huggy and you have to be aplauded in your actions, and thoughts.

A bunny hugger is one that probably has little experiance with horses except don't they look cute, is gullable and prepared to line the pockets of an orgainisation mascarading as rescue which pass on 3 legged, unhealthy animals with behavioal issues for heavily inflated sums which truthfully could properly rescue two or three healthy animals with no issues but are still unlucky enough to end up in the meat chain. Infact the thinner the animal more the bunny huggers crave to save it, and the more they are taken for a ride!

Consequently these bunny huggers find out very quickly how they are not equiped financially or mentally to look after these lame and/or psychologically damaged horses and suddenly find hugging the bunny has lost its appeal.

there lies my definition of a true bunny hugger :)
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Think I misunderstood what a bunnyhugger was, thankyou for your definition. I thought it was anyone that felt healthy horses should be given homes despite their rideability.
I have read a lot of posts on this forum whereby people are advised to put healthy horses to sleep if they cant keep them any longer, which I dont agree with.
However, that is a fair point you make about horses which are probably past rescuing and would be better of put to sleep. I dont agree that these animals should be passed on , especially to individuals who dont understand the financial and longterm commitment involved.
 
Tamba said:
Think I misunderstood what a bunnyhugger was, thankyou for your definition. I thought it was anyone that felt healthy horses should be given homes despite their rideability.
I have read a lot of posts on this forum whereby people are advised to put healthy horses to sleep if they cant keep them any longer, which I dont agree with.
However, that is a fair point you make about horses which are probably past rescuing and would be better of put to sleep. I dont agree that these animals should be passed on , especially to individuals who dont understand the financial and longterm commitment involved.
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This is exactly how I feel. I started this thread and both horses that I have owned have been rescues.......a 25yo tb that had 7 homes in 8 years, and a one-eyed expolo pony who was rescued from being put down by the owner before me and then sold to me for £1.

I have actually never bought a riding horse, instead using my time and money to look after those who no-one else wants. However, neither of my horses were in chronic pain and I was prepared to do what it took to get them well and happy and give them a home for life. Even though I had had Zoom on loan for two years I still stayed up late into the night talking to OH and my mum about whether to accept her owner's offer to give her to me.

Prior thought doesn't seem to be on the agenda for alot of people who buy these lame horses off the internet :(
 
Of course no one wants to see a healthy horse put down.

BUT - if the owner is no longer able to keep it, and cannot find a suitable permanent home for it by loan or sale etc, then surely it is better for the horse to be PTS humanely than flogged to some low end dealer and be passed from pillar to post? Unfortunately not everybody can afford to keep every horse they have ever owned to the end of its natural life.

Better a certain death than an uncertain future in my opinion.
 
lauraandjack said:
Of course no one wants to see a healthy horse put down.

BUT - if the owner is no longer able to keep it, and cannot find a suitable permanent home for it by loan or sale etc, then surely it is better for the horse to be PTS humanely than flogged to some low end dealer and be passed from pillar to post? Unfortunately not everybody can afford to keep every horse they have ever owned to the end of its natural life.

Better a certain death than an uncertain future in my opinion.
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Exactly! That last sentence says it all.
 
MontyandZoom said:
This is exactly how I feel. I started this thread and both horses that I have owned have been rescues.......a 25yo tb that had 7 homes in 8 years, and a one-eyed expolo pony who was rescued from being put down by the owner before me and then sold to me for £1.

I have actually never bought a riding horse, instead using my time and money to look after those who no-one else wants. However, neither of my horses were in chronic pain and I was prepared to do what it took to get them well and happy and give them a home for life. Even though I had had Zoom on loan for two years I still stayed up late into the night talking to OH and my mum about whether to accept her owner's offer to give her to me.

Prior thought doesn't seem to be on the agenda for alot of people who buy these lame horses off the internet :(
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exactly, true but very sad ^
I am like this as well, I will keep the poor, unsaleable horse instead of buying a horse. I think some of us, like you , are just a lot more sentimental about horses, than others.
Im just soft, and I admit it. But I cant help it. I think Monty and Zoom were really lucky horses, that they had settled kind home where all their needs were met. Its sad, but so many horses just dont have the same luck. I feel really sorry as well for owners that have lost their jobs, etc, or their circumstances have changed and their long owned trusty companions have to be sold on. It must be awful for them. I understand why they approach charities in hope that they might stay in a permanent home. Its just sad that even the charities are full to the brim and unless they can find homes,pts seems to be their only option.
 
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