Escaped stallion

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Pearlsasinger said:
If the stallion were in with my horses, I'd have had it shot by now.
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I have told her that is an option and it won't be on her (guilt wise) if that has to happen. The vets have mentioned getting a local rescue involved as regards to stallion and his 5 field mates as the owner is obviously incapable of taking care of them.
My friend was obviously expecting the owner to deal with the stallion ASAP and it not to have to come to that. Given that she was on holiday at the time and only got back today she was then hoping to be able to remove her horses but found even with 2 vets and others to help it was far too dangerous.
As I said there is only one vet who can do this and he wasn't in today. They are hoping he can come tomorrow and go from there
 
SpeedyPony said:
Is there nowhere nearby with stables/a barn? With enough hands you should be able to lead your friends horses in there and shut the top door before the stallion breaks out again. (Bonus points if there's a race/crush you can run the stallion into when he does get there 😆)
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They have stables next door where he escaped from but she would have to take her horses out the lane on to the 60mph road to get there.
No one wants to cause a accident on the road. It's safest to have it dealt with on the farm
 
meleeka said:
I'm afraid I'd have no guilt in protecting my horses from that, even if it meant dispatching the stallion. I hope your friend understands the trauma her horses are going through?
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Yes she is well aware hence why she cancelled her holiday and came home to try to find a solution. The vets came to help but couldn't do much as not able to dart him
 
SpeedyPony said:
Honestly I'd risk the accident- if you can round up help, you can get a couple of people to stop the traffic while you lead yours across, the stallion will either stay where he's left or not but he's not your problem or responsibility. It would also make the police more likely to get involved.
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I don't think this would work..farm exits on a 60mph road just off a blind corner. She could possibly box her two up and put them somewhere else as someone else had suggested. I was working today so wasn't there to help but I know they spent most of the day trying to contain the stallion. So next option is the vet can come and try darting it or shoot it.
 
poppetpony said:
I don't think this would work..farm exits on a 60mph road just off a blind corner. She could possibly box her two up and put them somewhere else as someone else had suggested. I was working today so wasn't there to help but I know they spent most of the day trying to contain the stallion. So next option is the vet can come and try darting it or shoot it.
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If she has transport I'd definitely get them boxed up pdq.
 
Peoples idiocy knows no bounds.
Any local farmer will come and shoot the stallion with a shotgun. Bill the stupid owner for his time and disposal of the body and the vets bills for horses if they survive that long.
No discussion, no debate, no legal comeback, ridiculous to allow it to go on this long.
Farmers need to dispatch livestock quickly in difficult situations often.
They dont fanny about for days when their stock is at risk.
 
I dont understand why the vets have not suggested a marksman. This is a dangerous situation for the people and the animals. The stallion needs to be dispatched. The police and/or the vets would normally have suggested this by now, particularly as there is the risk of him getting on the road. I highly doubt there's only one vet can use a dart gun in all of West Wales either, so why was another one not called.

And for the love of god, do not let the stallion on the road. Its all well and good people saying they don't care about the stallion, but if there's a car crash there is potential for people dying and no horse on the planet is worth causing the death of a person.
 
I'm Dun said:
I dont understand why the vets have not suggested a marksman. This is a dangerous situation for the people and the animals. The stallion needs to be dispatched. The police and/or the vets would normally have suggested this by now, particularly as there is the risk of him getting on the road. I highly doubt there's only one vet can use a dart gun in all of West Wales either, so why was another one not called.

And for the love of god, do not let the stallion on the road. Its all well and good people saying they don't care about the stallion, but if there's a car crash there is potential for people dying and no horse on the planet is worth causing the death of a person.
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My friend called them yesterday from holiday to ask for advice regarding unwanted pregnancy. They said as long as they can jab the mare within 7 days she should be fine. They came today, 1 vet and 1 assistant, to see what they could do to help. They suggested sedated him via food but he wouldn't leave the mare to eat. They tried separating him from the mare and gelding but it became quickly apparent that it was too dangerous. The stallion was charging at them and getting back to the mare. I'm only repeating what they have advised.
And yes the last thing we want is for any human to get hurt
 
Mrs. Jingle said:
I do wish you would respond to the offers of very knowledgeable help from forum members in your area. They may well have a safe alternative solution to the problem that can be implemented ASAP.
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I have messaged one member privately. As I said it's not my situation to sort out. I'm only involved as I was asked to keep an eye on the 2 horses while my friend was away.
Ultimately they are her horses on her Dad's land so it's up to her. We haven't had a situation like this before and although we both have horses we are by no means experts or used to dealing with feral stallions.
 
poppetpony said:
Would you stand in front of a raging wild stallion like that? It's really dangerous!
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I would stand in front of a raging lion if it went near Mimosa.

The vets are always going to 'advise' not doing something dangerous - it's the only responsible thing to do in a position of trust like a vet is, and they could worry that they would be liable if it goes wrong. But the king himself could advise me not to fetch my horses in, and I'd ignore it.

What I would do is get hold of a mobile stock pen, suitable for cattle. Local farmers should have them and be able to help, otherwise you could pick up from an agricultural store circa £2k would be my guess, and sell on eBay after if need be.

You can set up as a two parallel chutes and use them to separate horses by keeping the chutes open on both ends until you're sure that you've got the stallion caught separately to the others. If they are all in, they just go straight through. If they are in separately, you close up.

I'd corral horses using quad bikes or other suitable vehicles if being on foot with a lunge whip isn't sufficient. I have caught a dangerous wild mare using a chute and two land rovers before.

I'd load up my horses, and I'd drive them 50 miles away if need be.

I'd probably be contacting local liveries right now and getting both horses somewhere with stables, lights, hot water etc as they may require vet care if they are being beaten up.

ETA, do you have a farmer near you that is used to dealing with bulls? I'd want help from a cow man, or a very experienced person who has dealt with horses as working animals, over someone who handles horses as pets in a usually contained setting.
 
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paddy555 said:
I don’t think this is for real.
I know a lot of farmers and they would be perfectly capable of dealing with something like this. Drive the mare and gelding into a barn for protection and then worry about the stallion.
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Agree, its a very stereotypical description of an 'evil stallion', doesn't sound real.
 
OrangeAndLemon said:
Agree, its a very stereotypical description of an 'evil stallion', doesn't sound real.
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It’s difficult to sort out these posts looking for ‘help’ to those from people genuinely wanting advice.
In this situation it seems the horses belong to a ‘friend’ - that could mean anything! If l was a friend of someone in this situation l would be sorting it rather more proactively than posting on a forum. I’d also make sure my fencing was secure and we weren’t likely to have any visiting horses, cattle or sheep.k
 
OrangeAndLemon said:
Agree, its a very stereotypical description of an 'evil stallion', doesn't sound real.
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Very real ongoing situation and no one has said the stallion is evil. He's just doing what comes naturally. If anything I'm blaming the neighbours next door as they are well aware of stallions and that my friend has a mare and didn't inform her.
 
gallopingby said:
It’s difficult to sort out these posts looking for ‘help’ to those from people genuinely wanting advice.
In this situation it seems the horses belong to a ‘friend’ - that could mean anything! If l was a friend of someone in this situation l would be sorting it rather more proactively than posting on a forum. I’d also make sure my fencing was secure and we weren’t likely to have any visiting horses, cattle or sheep.k
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My sheep are currently on her Dad's farm. We both have horses and she knew I'd be checking my sheep every day so asked me to keep and eye on the horses whilst checking the sheep as her family aren't horsey and might not spot anything wrong. I'm not sure how I'm meant to prove this is real? As I said I do have photos and videos but that might be outing for my friend.
I've said I'd help her and came here looking for suggestions and to see if anyone else has ever had something similar happen.
 
poppetpony said:
Very real ongoing situation and no one has said the stallion is evil. He's just doing what comes naturally. If anything I'm blaming the neighbours next door as they are well aware of stallions and that my friend has a mare and didn't inform her.
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Why would they be expected to inform her that they were keeping a stallion 2 fields away with double fences? It doesn't come naturally to most stallions to break through fences like that or few people would be ever be able to keep one. That behaviour is sterotypical of the "evil stallion" fears of many horse owners who haven't seen much of stallions and have a fit when one wearing a stallion disk turns up at their dressage competition.
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