Etiquette whilst Hacking .......

its funny really, ive noticed that when the person is in the wrong that when they start throwing abuse.

just the other day i was hacking out and bella was nannying logic as hes still a baby and getting used to it all (allthough he's very good) just need reasurance.

on a countryish road woman comes speeding round corner in a 4x4, slams the anchors on then proceeds to wind window down and shout abuse that we should ride in single file ect.

i agree as under normal circumstances we do, but we just said we are allowed to take up the same amount of room as a car. she then speeds off (but i would like to note she had a child who was no more than 5 or 6 sat in the front seat with no carseat booster ect or anything)

some people have no manners or show any etiquette at all
 
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Please do not think that all endurance riders are like this.

I do a lot of training at a trot with my arab and so it is inevitable that sometimes I round a bend to see another horse and rider ahead of me. I always come back to a walk but do catch them very quickly as my mare has a very big walk. Once I get close to them I ask if it is ok to walk past and once past ask again if ok to trot away.

Only once have I ever had a problem. Did all of the above and was told fine to go past. Once past I aksed if ok to trot and the lady said she'd rather I didn't as she was on a youngster, fair enough. The problem was that said youngester walked like a slug so we soon started to become some distance ahead of her which resulted in the lady telling me I had to slow my horse down to wait for her. I held my horse back which resulted in jogging and prancing and her looking for trouble - not suprising, she is used to keeping a steady pace and not stopping and starting. THis obviously upset the woman even more so she gave me an earful that I was upsetting her baby. That in my opinion is not on! As soon as we got to a bridle path I told her that I wouldn't waste the whole ride and that I would trot away once out of sight round the next bend and she grudgingly agreed to this.

Whilst I completely agree that the way this person has refused to do as you have asked is entirely unacceptable and very possibly dangerous there is a point that I would like to make to everyone here...

For endurance riders, and no doubt eventers, pointers on fittening work, hacking is our training. I am sure that those that train in a school do not expect someone to dawdle around in front of them and then tell them that they only want them to walk around slowly (the many posts about school etiquette are enough to show that). Equally, we are not out for a nice hack to look at the view and chat to our mates, we are riding with a purpose - often with speed or heart rate parameters in mind. So where it is possible to allow us to safely pass and go on our way please do so.

OP - notr a dig at you and the situation you found yourself in at all, please do not take it as so.
 
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its funny really, ive noticed that when the person is in the wrong that when they start throwing abuse.

some people have no manners or show any etiquette at all

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I think you may be right here ... I think she thinks that she is the only one on this earth and we all owe it to her
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Ignorant cow......do you want to borrow my welsh cob and trot past her in full royal welsh cob trot???!!! I had one who used to barge past on narrow parts of bridleway, so one day I cob trotted past her whenthe path opened out and her scatty arab thing had a good old flid attack!!!
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That made me laugh. as my boy is a Welsh D x Hackney and he was starting to prance his stuff, when he looks magnificent .... but compared to yours, he would be deemed very dainty
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Please do not think that all endurance riders are like this.

I do a lot of training at a trot with my arab and so it is inevitable that sometimes I round a bend to see another horse and rider ahead of me. I always come back to a walk but do catch them very quickly as my mare has a very big walk. Once I get close to them I ask if it is ok to walk past and once past ask again if ok to trot away.

Only once have I ever had a problem. Did all of the above and was told fine to go past. Once past I aksed if ok to trot and the lady said she'd rather I didn't as she was on a youngster, fair enough. The problem was that said youngester walked like a slug so we soon started to become some distance ahead of her which resulted in the lady telling me I had to slow my horse down to wait for her. I held my horse back which resulted in jogging and prancing and her looking for trouble - not suprising, she is used to keeping a steady pace and not stopping and starting. THis obviously upset the woman even more so she gave me an earful that I was upsetting her baby. That in my opinion is not on! As soon as we got to a bridle path I told her that I wouldn't waste the whole ride and that I would trot away once out of sight round the next bend and she grudgingly agreed to this.

Whilst I completely agree that the way this person has refused to do as you have asked is entirely unacceptable and very possibly dangerous there is a point that I would like to make to everyone here...

For endurance riders, and no doubt eventers, pointers on fittening work, hacking is our training. I am sure that those that train in a school do not expect someone to dawdle around in front of them and then tell them that they only want them to walk around slowly (the many posts about school etiquette are enough to show that). Equally, we are not out for a nice hack to look at the view and chat to our mates, we are riding with a purpose - often with speed or heart rate parameters in mind. So where it is possible to allow us to safely pass and go on our way please do so.

OP - notr a dig at you and the situation you found yourself in at all, please do not take it as so.

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No problem and not taken the wrong way at all.

To be honest, if you came along and wanted to move on quickly, I would get off and wait with my horses and then continue on our way, once you had moved on.

I am very interested to hear about your comment re "speed or heart rate parameters in mind" .... as I feel this may be part of her issue, but surely she can wait for a few strides and continue on her way?
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''surely she can wait for a few strides and continue on her way? ''

Absolutely - I was thinking more about there person that was expecting me to nanny their young horse for miles.

As I said there is absolutely no excuse for actively causing someone to have problems with their horse and/or ignoring what they have asked.

Unfortunately I think that in all disciplines, in fact in all things outside of horses as well, there are just some people that do not give a s**t about others - Nation of a**e h**es and all that!!
 
We occasionally meet a couple of 'training' endurance riders. Twice they have come up behind us at a fast trot and just shouted ' coming through'.
I think they are annoyed that we walk along the tracks chatting. I've managed to get horses for for hunting for 35 years and have never been unable to walk when necessary or polite to do so.
A friend met 2 girls galloping towards her along a tree root rutted path, she planted her very robust heavyweight right in the middle to slow them down and they careered past either side of her.
Manners maketh the man (or woman) they say, it is just a pity that a few foolish riders taint the rest.
 
Please accept my appologies on behalf of all the well behaved endurance riders that would never dream as being as ignorant as this lady that you have had the misfortune to encounter.

She is clearly not quite there if she tros everywhere as she is only reducing the shelf life of her horse.
 
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We are not all like this - I promise!!

When I did endurance with Spooks, we did a lot of trotting when out hacking, and had certain hills that we used that were good for fittening training, but myself, or my endurance riding friends wouldn't ever charge on past people without slowing down. To be honest, most of the time we would end of chatting for a few minutes, and they would either trot on up the hill with us or we would stay at their pace and natter.

In the Endurance GB rules, you are instructed to approach fellow competitors and other riders politely and are expected to slow down and ask if it is safe to pass before you do so. I know in the heat of the moment that isn't always how it works out on rides, but when I was riding at novice level, there were many offers of company and help if I was having issues.

One suggestion would be (if you know her name) to contact your nearest Endurance GB group and make a complaint,
http://www.endurancegb.co.uk/html/groupsmap.html
 
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