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vineyridge said:
Does anyone else think it's rather odd that ALL the Swedes made it round the course double clear? Well, Svennerstal had .4 time, but that's not much. Isn't that statistically unlikely?
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Lol I'd love to hear what you think theyve done to make this happen. Theyre avery strong team who have been on the verge of a medal winning erformance for a while now and it all came together on the day
 
vineyridge said:
Too late now, but there is a free VPN called Expat Shield that gives you a British IP anywhere in the world so you can watch restricted coverage. Probably any free VPN would work just as well.

Does anyone else think it's rather odd that ALL the Swedes made it round the course double clear? Well, Svennerstal had .4 time, but that's not much. Isn't that statistically unlikely?
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Remember that they were close up behind the kiwis challenging for bronze in London. Malmo is a public park used a lot for dog walking, picnicing, etc. so the fences are all positioned/constructed in the last 2 weeks as it has to stay open. The stringing only goes up on Friday afternoon so the residents of Malmo are inconvenienced as little as possible. It is hard enough to walk the course without tripping over dogs, children and sunbathers let alone anything else!
 
TheMule said:
Lol I'd love to hear what you think theyve done to make this happen. Theyre avery strong team who have been on the verge of a medal winning erformance for a while now and it all came together on the day
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Definitely a strong team. But they must have an amazing cross country coach. Their Individual riders also all went double clear.

Now for a conspiracy theory :), if the XC map was posted a while back and there were course minute markers AND they knew where they would be placed, how to ride the course would be much easier to determine--and if they walked the park A LOT, and mapped the terrain in their heads ahead of time . . . Familiarity makes everything much easier.

On the other hand, it appears that the entire German team also went double clear.
:)
 
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vineyridge said:
Definitely a strong team. But they must have an amazing cross country coach. Their Individual riders also all went double clear.

Now for a conspiracy theory :), if the XC map was posted a while back and there were course minute markers AND they knew where they would be placed, how to ride the course would be much easier to determine--and if they walked the park A LOT, and mapped the terrain in their heads ahead of time . . . Familiarity makes everything much easier.

On the other hand, it appears that the entire German team also went double clear.
:)
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Your conspiracy theory is blown out of the water by the fact that at least 4 of their 8 riders are based overseas - 2 in Germany and 2 in Britain. If the map had been published sufficiently in advance then the same opportunity would be available to all nations. I believe the Brits did something similar to this in Greenwich but it didn't make their performances any better than the other leading nations.
I personally think it is sad that a country produced a team, mixed with youth and experience, to perform to a very high level and it is clouded by thoughts of malpractice. For me, the Swedish team did their country proud and good on them. It can only help the sport in general and Scandinavia in particular.
 
oldvic said:
Your conspiracy theory is blown out of the water by the fact that at least 4 of their 8 riders are based overseas - 2 in Germany and 2 in Britain. If the map had been published sufficiently in advance then the same opportunity would be available to all nations. I believe the Brits did something similar to this in Greenwich but it didn't make their performances any better than the other leading nations.
I personally think it is sad that a country produced a team, mixed with youth and experience, to perform to a very high level and it is clouded by thoughts of malpractice. For me, the Swedish team did their country proud and good on them. It can only help the sport in general and Scandinavia in particular.
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Totally agree and it's actually quite refreshing to see another European team close to the Germans!
 
oldvic said:
Your conspiracy theory is blown out of the water by the fact that at least 4 of their 8 riders are based overseas - 2 in Germany and 2 in Britain. If the map had been published sufficiently in advance then the same opportunity would be available to all nations. I believe the Brits did something similar to this in Greenwich but it didn't make their performances any better than the other leading nations.
I personally think it is sad that a country produced a team, mixed with youth and experience, to perform to a very high level and it is clouded by thoughts of malpractice. For me, the Swedish team did their country proud and good on them. It can only help the sport in general and Scandinavia in particular.
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Hear, hear. The Swedes may not be the deepest team but they do have some very competitive people and we all know, if the teams are fairly even, it often just comes down to how the ball bounces on the day. The Swedes did a super job RIDING yesterday and deserve to be where they are.

If it is all about familiarity then how come anyone other than an American ever wins Rolex? ;)
 
TarrSteps said:
Hear, hear. The Swedes may not be the deepest team but they do have some very competitive people and we all know, if the teams are fairly even, it often just comes down to how the ball bounces on the day. The Swedes did a super job RIDING yesterday and deserve to be where they are.

If it is all about familiarity then how come anyone other than an American ever wins Rolex? ;)
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And the Brits haven't won Badminton in a while either. Swedes thoroughly deserve their team silver!

Individual bronze for WFP and the team in 6th. Tina was 13th. Both she and WFP had the same fence down.
 
TarrSteps said:
Hear, hear. The Swedes may not be the deepest team but they do have some very competitive people and we all know, if the teams are fairly even, it often just comes down to how the ball bounces on the day. The Swedes did a super job RIDING yesterday and deserve to be where they are.

If it is all about familiarity then how come anyone other than an American ever wins Rolex? ;)
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Home teams usually do well (except for Americans). I've just been told that Malmo hosts a World Cup event every year. Do many Brits compete in that? I know the Swedes and Germans do. Familiarity definitely helps (except for Americans who can't ride dressage competitively except for a very few.)

Now if there weren't the dressage coefficient . . .
 
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vineyridge said:
Home teams usually do well (except for Americans). I've just been told that Malmo hosts a World Cup event every year. Do many Brits compete in that? I know the Swedes and Germans do. Familiarity definitely helps (except for Americans who can't ride dressage competitively except for a very few.)

Now if there weren't the dressage coefficient . . .
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Some Brits have been to Malmo in the past although it is not a competition that attracts many competitors so I wouldn't say many have been. If they really felt familiarity was that important then they could have sent riders over the last couple of years. It has not been a secret that the Europeans were going to be in Malmo.
Again your theory doesn't hold up - the French and the Italians also put up very polished performances without much prior knowledge of Malmo. They, along with the Swedes, have some very talented young riders who raised their game and should be applauded for it rather than trying to find feeble excuses as to why they beat us. Some of the French and Italian horses were even less suited to the twisty nature of the course than ours so that wasn't a factor either.

I'm not sure of the relevance of the dressage co-efficient - that didn't stop us winning a team medal.
 
Ah, vr, I have to admire your dedication to the cause. ;)

Of course familiarity helps, as does not having to travel long distances, having a supportive crowd, and having the sort of financial and public support that usually goes with having a major sporting event - however niche - in ones own country, especially if that is rarely the case. I'm sure the Swedes are always keen to win but to win at home, that is a special kind of motivation.

As to returning the sport to the good ol' days, I can't see it myself. Progress comes to us all, even people who do a sport that requires formal dress and a positively ancient form of transportation. ;)
 
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