Eventing Stallions

STOP IT!!!!!!
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Contis is a nice chap - obviously he is a much younger horse, and is unproven so far in sport, although he has been backed and is going well. I think he will be aimed at the PAVO Eventing Championships next year.

He's got a nice temperament and is willing to please. I actually went over to look at him this afternoon, and he was very smug about having a new person in the stable making a fuss of him!

He has nice well known bloodlines, and the grading panel in Germany last year were very impressed with him - he missed out on a premium by a nanosecond because he wasn't as mature then as they would have liked - but obviously he's had another year now to grow on.

I know both horses do natural cover and AI - and I know for a fact they are both well mannered about covering and are nice boys!

(I should probably add that the 2006 Hannibal filly was sold and I no longer own her - I retained the 2004 one, and didn't need two!)
 
But he has dodgy feet amongst other things, he was only graded on performance. I remember seeing him at Dags when we stopped the night there.

Your 06 is a stunner though!
 
I'm not saying on an open forum as HHO class it as defamatory. Nothing to do with an injury. It was Erhard who was telling me.

She is a smarty, what is the dam line? Goddington stud were always one of my favs, I loved the little TB mare they graded a few years ago. Have you shown her much? Will she go eventing?
 
She's out of my Gribaldi mare (also bred by Godington). She went to the breed show with me when she was a foal, but her owner has been off with injury so she didn't get out this season! I am sure she'll be out and about next season though - def one to watch!
 
The foal is a super horse - actually, I know her older brother is on the market for sale at the moment, but I don't own him. I think the foal I pictured shows how a more lightweight stallion (Hannibal in this case) can add further quality onto a lovely dressage bred mare - you get the best of both worlds!
 
I've been thinking about this some more - happens when you're at work - and would like to add the following about Godington Hannibal:

I have worked in the past with this stallion, handling him on a day to day basis. I can vouch that he has an excellent temperament, as well as good conformation and a wonderful performance record. I have had five of his progeny myself, am due a foal in 2008 and have already booked a further mare in for next season. I know and have worked with dozens more of his progeny - they all have a decent temperament and good work ethic and many of them are out there competing and they are all staying sound. He has champions from nearly every foal crop - the filly I have posted the picture of above is a typical Hannibal youngster, not anything out of the ordinary.

I would recommend anyone looking to use a lighterweight stallion with a proven competition and progeny record to visit Hannibal and evaluate him and his stock with their own eyes and an open mind rather than listening to anyone (me included) on the internet. The facts speak for themselves, opinions can be clouded.

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http://www.godingtonstud.com/hannibal.htm
 
Glenhill Gold?
irish eventing stallion being placed at 2** and 3** level... also hes coloured
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my friend has just bred a fantastic little coloured filly off him
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and this is daddy
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hes 16.3 3/4 tb
 
i wouldn't worry too much as i think people liked a stallion they would ask on here but still make their own mind by visiting him,

i think he looks great and has produced the goods for you so don't worry what pleases some doesn't always please all
we'd be boring if we were all the same ....
 
I agree that people would probably make up their own minds by seeing a stallion - what makes me sad is that people may be put off going to see a stallion completely through reading things.

I breed coloureds and have read some downright nasty things about some stallions, but thankfully have had the sense to go and judge for myself! Has worked out well in some cases, and I have gone on to use the stallion.
 
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I agree that people would probably make up their own minds by seeing a stallion - what makes me sad is that people may be put off going to see a stallion completely through reading things.

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I take it that is aimed at me. If you want to discuss stallions on open forums please be ready for them to be ripped to shreds on here, many good stallions have been but it won't put people off if they're keen. I have my opinions and you have yours, like I say his record speaks for itself but conformation is extremely important in an event horse hence classes such as BYEH, Pavo in-hand and BEF. Its also the reason for gradings.
 
No, it wasn't aimed at you in particular, SM - I was actually thinking of a different stallion when I wrote that comment.
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I agree with your points about the importance of grading - the German Trakehner Verband do NOT grade horses purely on competition results. They may invite a competition animal to be presented for grading partially on the basis of results, but the horse then has to go through exactly the same grading procedure as would a 2yo colt.
 
They're a heck of alot more lenient once something proves itself in competition though! If that wasn't the case then why would some failed 2y.o's who later prove themself in competition grade? They're conformation, movement e.t.c hasn't changed so what other reason would they grade once they have a comp record when they failed as a 2y.o?
 
I think a horse will look much better at maturity than as a 2 year old. I've got pictures from when my mares were graded at three, and they look 100% better now that they are mature. I don't believe there would be any vast difference between mares and stallions - especially in a slow to mature breed like the Trakehners.
 
We have a mill law now 3yo and he's fab. Woudl agree as babies they're not flash flash but he's gone out and won at county shows, he was 2nd overall in the BEF futurity 3yo thing this year with exceptional marks and we've just backed him and his fab temperament is coming through - 3yo happy hacking round the village even on bin day! Showing a lovely loose jump too. While he isn't the one you'd go wow at on the yard, he has good paces, good conformation and a great jump. If all those things go together with his lovely attitude that must make something quite useful?!
 
This was the only photo I could find, though he stands in Herts nr Chorley wood (I think), he is known for his outstanding temperment.
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Nickel King was responsible for siring King William ridden by Mary King. Bemish as he is known at home is only 15.3hh which is unusal for a Nickel King offspring as most of his were at least 16hh.
 
The TV cant really refuse to grade a stallion that has proven itself at international level can they. And I know Hannibal's excellent competition record was very important in his being considered for grading.

I like to go and see a stallion in the flesh too but have also taken the odd risk and bred to one I havent seen, like Don Ricoss last year. If you can't go and see a stallion in the flesh then gathering as much info as you can, good and bad, is essential. I have bred to stallions that have had real bad mouthing from other SOs but I went with my gut instinct and it paid off. Opinions are just opinions but I like to hear the good and bad and then come to my own conclusions.
 
Would have to agree totally with Volatis. I like to hear as much as possible from all sources, then weigh it up and make my own decision.

I'm not a stallion owner, but if I were, & my horse were to be discussed at all, I think I'd prefer the bad comments out in the open: so I could refute them.

On the other hand, as a mare owner, you quickly hear all the nice things about a stallion, but you only hear about the negatives on the grapevine, where its difficult to find out if they are true or not. This can't be right.
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Tell me about it! I have a favourite but am going to see at least 6 on my shortlist so that i can make an informed decision. This forum has also made me widen my view I had really only thought about TB or WB to put her to but am now considering trak & a selle francais!

It is such a mine field as what may be right for my mare may not be for another especially as she is a quirkly little thing luckily it personality that makes her complicated not being marish!

I have sent out some emails to a couple of studs and am also going to see a someone from heres stallion when i get some times sorted with other studs as would like to see a couple together so can compare them fairly.

I shall let you all know how my progress with stallions is coming on.

Unfortunatley spoke to the Criminal laws stud today and he is unlikey to be standing at stud this year
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I am however very excited about going to see brief encounter he is by Jumbo and looks lovely hopefully be seeing him soon
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anyway good luck to anyone else who is searching for that perfect stallion an let me know how you get on

thanks for eveyones advice increased my short list to about 20 stallions
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have a look at Mourne Mountains (TB) stands at Busk Hill Stud in Yorkshire, fab paces & lovely temperament, both of which he throws to offspring
 
My friend has a TB Eventing Stallion... Tanodaman.

He is about 16HH Grey, he was on Mel Brittains yard as a youngster but never raced. He has quite a good bloodline, so Im told but I no nothing about TB's !

She only lets him cover half a dozen mares a year, all his youngstock have lovely natures and nice confirmation. They are doing a varity of things, eventing, SJ and showing.

Performance wise he is very versatile, Events and shows. He has a fantastic nature and is easy to be around, he younstock take after him for that.

If you want anymore info PM me.
 
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