Ever seen anything this tiny? (and some advice please)

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Here is the mini (my aunt holding him
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We are going with his owners to the vet tomorrow to see about his terribly bowed front leg. I am no vet but he also appears to have weak back legs in the area near the fetlock and walks with his hoof slightly angled. They said it has greatly improved since he was born a few days ago . We urged her to get him in asap as I did some researching and it looks like this the vet will tell us more tomorrow, but has anyone had this problem? I imagine in minis it can be alot different outcome????

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Poor foal, he shouldn't be held like that (he may be small but he is still a horse and all his weight is on his abdomen, which could cause him a lot of damage.
He should be outside with his dam not being treated like a toy.
Sorry, but it just isn't right.
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Get over yourself
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Get your facts straight before you comment in such a blunt manner!
The mare was right there in the barn with us and we had him in there to look at his leg closer!


He was held like that for a few seconds AND my aunt was supporting his weight at his chest and rear!
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DO YOU SEE PRESSURE ON HIS BELLY!!!!!??????

THINK before you type a bleeding heart reply to me please! I am NOT a fool and would never put a horse in danger or treat it like a "Toy"
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Ok, Jade_Wisc
If foals really have to be lifted (which is usually not a good idea if avoidable in any way) they should be held with an arm around the chest, and one around the hindquarters, not draped over someone's knee....and yes, sorry, but I do see pressure on his belly
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Perhaps it would be better to get the vet to look at his leg on your behalf.
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Ok, Jade_Wisc
If foals really have to be lifted (which is usually not a good idea if avoidable in any way) they should be held with an arm around the chest, and one around the hindquarters

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are you blind? He is being held that way

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.and yes, sorry, but I do see pressure on his belly
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I must be right....blind

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Perhaps it would be better to get the vet to look at his leg on your behalf.
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I think I stated clearly that the vet will be seeing him in the morning


Now off the high and holy horse and find a real case to argue for the sake of the poor horses. I have a sad post below if you would like to read of real harm being done to a horse and you can stop attacking my aunt and I for trying to help them all.




Now if you will excuse me I have to go and get my mini colt Cashew...my daughter has him in her room for a tea party and I think the chocolate milk is not agreeing with him because I just heard him flush the toilet and he appeared to be in pain. Could have been from the tight clothing she dressed him up in though
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I will be sure to get him to a vet and hold him as you instructed
 
Yes, Jade_Wisc
I read about your noble work preventing animal cruelty after I read this post - and had a little giggle to myself.
As long as you're happy, I guess that's what matters most.
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He's so cute! I don't see any weight on his belly; in fact I see a definite gap between his belly and your aunt's legs.
I'm not sure what you mean by bowed leg though. One of my foals had sort of weak fetlocks behind so he was effectively standing on his heels, but they strengthened up in no time. Lots of foals are born with forelegs that don't straighten completely, but again, with time, this tends to correct itself.
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Yes, Jade_Wisc
I read about your noble work preventing animal cruelty after I read this post - and had a little giggle to myself.

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You read that post and had a "Giggle to yourself"
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Not the reaction I assume a normal human being would have




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As long as you're happy, I guess that's what matters most.
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As far as me being "happy" well...that was not the reaction I had either

Are you ok? Your post had a tone as though you were mocking what I saw today
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I have hard time understanding that .
 
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Yes, Jade_Wisc
I read about your noble work preventing animal cruelty after I read this post - and had a little giggle to myself.
As long as you're happy, I guess that's what matters most.
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What on earth is your problem?!!
 
I have a pic of his front leg while he is standing. I am waiting for it to appear on my blog for my phone pics . I will put it up when it gets there so check back in this thread.

Also...what you describe about the hind legs is just what they said it looked like when he was born. He has drastically improved from that though they said. She had been given alot of advice saying that she should let it correct itself and leave him be . I thought it best to see the vet right away just to be sure and she agreed.

I have a good feeling about it. He runs like crazy and seems very happy and well otherwise.

The front leg (only one) is very bowed out and curved and that is what worries me

The book that I read described using splints and I will suggest that the lady ask the vet about that.
 
No, clearly I am not as caring and loving as you.
For example, I seldom feel the need to cuddle my horses on my knee, much preferring to leave them neglected out of doors (and no, they don't get deckchairs in their 'barn' either
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I admit my judgement regarding the knee dandling may have been swayed by their breeding (Shire x etc) ...but still, I'm sure that wouldn't have put your Aunt off
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My vet uncle has described making sort of extensions that somehow (excuse fuzziness of my description!) go on foaly's feet that encourage the leg to straighten. I do think most of them sort themselves out with time but the vet will be able to tell you for sure
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Hmmmmm...I have a sofa,mini fridge and two chairs in my barn


someone call animal control

my horses are better off in the circus




have you been into the wine tonight per chance?


You are lucky that what I would like to say is greatly frowned upon by the forum T and C's
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Sofa, mini fridge and two chairs???!!! How did you teach your horses to use these? Or are they for your selfish human use?
No such thing as animal control over here (although many animals needing controlled)
Your horses also work in the circus - trapeze act?
Wine - God, if only I had the chance, but I'm too busy neglecting my horses
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Don't let the terms and conditions stop you - free speech and all that. Feel free! And I won't swear back, I'm too polite (at least in text) so you can have free rein.
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Here are the pics of his front leg. Although they really look more bowed in this picture than they did in reality.I think it may be the way he is standing

Also...another shot of him walking that really does not show the back legs that well . Hard to see the angled way he walks on his back hooves in these

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Just ever so slightly out of order I feel!
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Is that really necessary? Jade is doing her best to help this horse and I can see a clear gap between the belly and her Aunt's legs.
Good on you Jade and I hope you get everything sorted.
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Shockwave therapy possably might work. i've seen it used on a TB foal and that straightend his front legs out. good luck!
 
Jo C
I am just entitled to my opinion as you and Jade are.
I do have a hard time understanding why it was necessary to lift the foal onto someone's lap...especially as the vet (as I understand it) was already booked to see the foal the following day. Lifting the foal, IMO won't have done anything to help it, and may have harmed its delicate digestive system.
I accept that this wouldn't be Jade_Wisc or her aunt's intentions....and my argument isn't meant to be personal...although some people react negatively to comments.
There is a bit of a nasty trend of people buying/breeding miniatures as 'toys' or curiosities, when they are still horses (this is not directed at anyone, just an observation
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I accept your opinion however I feel it was stated harshly, you could have made your feelings known without resorting to that type of post imho.
 
Thats the trouble with emails/texts/forums its so hard to read someones tone correctly, no facial expressions etc to read...Its nice to see though that the differences can be talked through with a reasonably amicable conclusion
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However, Finn McCoul your comment was not constructive in any way, no point or opinion was voiced on your part, you just came a cross as a child... It was uncalled for!
 
I believe that you should take a closer look at the picture. Okay there is a chair in the barn, but how many people stack hay bales in their house?
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You dug yourself in a deep hole when you stated the correct way in which a foal should be held. Re-examine the photograph and note that the "correct" way in which you described is in fact being put into practice by JadeWisc's aunt. There is a definite gap between the foal and the lady's knees and if you are unable to see that, I suggest that you book yourself in for an eye-test, but before you do, try and remember whether you already have glasses that you should be wearing.

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