piaffe
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So that this move can be performed without increase of speed or head on the floor?
Im hoping there is something I haven't tried!
Im hoping there is something I haven't tried!
Exercises for give and re take of the rein?
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Mel85
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The really important thing to be able to carry out the give and retake without the horse shooting off or sticking head up in the air is to make sure that the horse is nice and light in the hand on not leaning on the contact. Try lots of circles and transitions to get the horse working between leg and hand and listening. I would also try introduce this on a circle as it makes it a bit easier than on the diagonal.
Try to give and retake nice and smoothly as well, rather than throwing the reins up the neck. If it is more gradual they are less likely to have a paddy about it! Worst movement in the test though - hate it! Hope this is helpful!
Try to give and retake nice and smoothly as well, rather than throwing the reins up the neck. If it is more gradual they are less likely to have a paddy about it! Worst movement in the test though - hate it! Hope this is helpful!
Bossanova
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Once youre warmed up, in trot and canter, give with one hand whilst maintaining contact with other for 2-3 strides then take that hand back and give with the other. Alternate in a rythym and then gradually once he's happy with that, give both hands instead of one, then go back to one at a time.
Hope that makes sense!!
Hope that makes sense!!
piaffe
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The really important thing to be able to carry out the give and retake without the horse shooting off or sticking head up in the air is to make sure that the horse is nice and light in the hand on not leaning on the contact.
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Thanks! Know that!
Im just hoping someone here might have a magic solution or something i havent thought about. We have been doing plenty of trans and trans within the pace, trans into lateral movements, have even strted doing large canter pirrouettes in order to make him sit a little better and not be so dependant on the bit.
His canter work is a lot more balanced and calm but the min i give the reins he fcuks off.
Im sure its just time (
) and it will come but was hoping for a solution that i hadnt thought about.
The really important thing to be able to carry out the give and retake without the horse shooting off or sticking head up in the air is to make sure that the horse is nice and light in the hand on not leaning on the contact.
[/ QUOTE ]
Thanks! Know that!
Im just hoping someone here might have a magic solution or something i havent thought about. We have been doing plenty of trans and trans within the pace, trans into lateral movements, have even strted doing large canter pirrouettes in order to make him sit a little better and not be so dependant on the bit.
His canter work is a lot more balanced and calm but the min i give the reins he fcuks off.
Im sure its just time (
piaffe
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ooooh hadnt thought of that! Thanks! guess what I will be doing tomorrow!
His trot isnt so bad but in canter its awful. Hes on alert at all times, all that engery stored up and waiting to fire!
His trot isnt so bad but in canter its awful. Hes on alert at all times, all that engery stored up and waiting to fire!
Mel85
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Hmm yes - when I read that back it did seem a little obvious!
I have tried the giving with one hand at a time technique and caused my horse to swing his head - but depends on the horse! Definitely worth trying!
I have tried the giving with one hand at a time technique and caused my horse to swing his head - but depends on the horse! Definitely worth trying!
Bossanova
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Its all about timing- you dont give one and then the other straight away, you have contact on both for a few strides then give with the other.
Worked for mine, he used to use any contact release as a cue to go faster, little devil!!
Worked for mine, he used to use any contact release as a cue to go faster, little devil!!
Weezy
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Dont I know it! Yep the one hand at a time deffo works, but ultimately it is the horse being confident with being ridden from the seat and therefore engaging correctly underneath you that will score you marks!
siennamum
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Good question...... HATE this movement
siennamum
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Good plan, we need to practice this before March I think... (that's assuming you can do it trotting up the road
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piaffe
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Its something that I have always sorted out with the above exercises. So am a little bit stumped that, what I am used to doing, has made very little difference!
Will try the alternate reins tonight and see if that helps, but i fear its a lack of blance issue and will just take time to resolve!
Bananaman
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Yep, definately the alternate rein giving.
As Boss says, not too quickly from one to the other, but in a quiet sort of rhythm.
Then you can make any necessary correction with the rein with the contact.
If the horse swings his/her head, this suggests that the horse was using the rein to balance on in the first place and not submissive to the leg to keep them straight.
Another tip, OK cheat, is to put the horse a little deeper than ideal before the give, so that if they come up, it is only to normal position, not 'above the bit.
(Do make sure that it is only a LITTLE deeper though!)
As Boss says, not too quickly from one to the other, but in a quiet sort of rhythm.
Then you can make any necessary correction with the rein with the contact.
If the horse swings his/her head, this suggests that the horse was using the rein to balance on in the first place and not submissive to the leg to keep them straight.
Another tip, OK cheat, is to put the horse a little deeper than ideal before the give, so that if they come up, it is only to normal position, not 'above the bit.
(Do make sure that it is only a LITTLE deeper though!)
Tempi
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you need a well behaved horse like Archie!! I give and retake and he does nothing just stays in his nice (newly revamped!) outline
Yup, i know, im not very helpful
However i do think Boss's idea of giving with one rein at a time whilst he gets used to it is a good one. Bloss used to fall on her nose (literally) when i did this and like you and V i did loads of work to get her lighter in front and then did the alternate hand giving business and now shes fine with it.
However i do think Boss's idea of giving with one rein at a time whilst he gets used to it is a good one. Bloss used to fall on her nose (literally) when i did this and like you and V i did loads of work to get her lighter in front and then did the alternate hand giving business and now shes fine with it.