Experience of Equi jewel

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I feed Rose ad lib haylage when she's in and a couple of feeds of mollases free chaff, micronised linseed and unmollased sugar beet + a balancer . she's lacking topline and muscle generally and have been recommended Equi jewel. I am concentrating on work that will help to build up her up correctly and she's not really lacking condition as such. Thoughts welcome
 
If she's not lacking condition as such, I'd stick with the current feeding and work to build up.
I've used E.Jewel on a couple and it did help over 6 weeks or so, but both were walking frames and hips etc before starting out.

Edited to add, it's a good time of year to build up muscle as you haven't got lots of fat to strip off 1st! :)
 
I have equijewel, but it really does pile on the weight. I use it because one of mine needs a high oil diet and the other struggles with holding weight over winter. I feed in tiny amounts though.

If its topline and muscle then I wouldn't personally add it in, I'd just focus on the correct work - it'll come with time.
 
JanetGeorge said:
TBH, things like this are about as 'good' as tearing up tenners in the rain. You're feeding your horse well (maybe a bit too well, lol) Topline and muscle come from the right sort of work.
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My thoughts really. She's not a greedy horse and I feed her relatively small amounts or she just leaves part of her feed. I haven't got her out on her winter turnout yet as OH still has a massive bonfire in there which contains some undesirables (yew) so the paddock she is in doesn't have a lot of grass on it and we've had a couple of frosts lately. I make my own haylage which is late cut and quite dry so not overly rich. I really hate to see fat horses so I think I'll keep her feed as it is and see how she goes.
 
I have used it on skinny poor doers and it works wonders in weeks, but I wouldn't use it on a horse that looks well and just needs a bit of condition, your feeding the right stuff for that already Equijewel is expensive and in your situation a waste of money.
 
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oldie48 said:
Would you say that with correct training it helps to build topline and muscle? A respected trainer has suggested I might like to use it short term not as a general long term supplement.
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Work builds the correct top line & muscle. This supports it but more for a dense form of calories for the work.
If your horse is well conditioned I wouldn’t use it
 
ihatework said:
I use omega rice which is more cost effective. And yes it does make a difference
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I looked at this and thought it could be more cost effective than Equi Jewel, but is it ? this is the composition - 20kg £29.00
Rice Bran
Full Fat Linseed Meal
Wheat
Limestone
Sulphite Lie
Vitamin E
Anti-Oxidant

It does not state the quantities, how much rice bran is actually in a bag, could it just be good old linseed marketed cleverly. Equi Jewel composition - 20kg £38.00
  • Stabilized rice bran
  • Calcium carbonate
  • Vitamin E
  • Selenium
  • E280 Proprionic Acid
I feed Equi Jewel to a 25 year old huge hunter with cushings. He is looking good for his age on Veteran Vitality top dressed with oats and 500g EJ.
 
I have found Equi Jewel to be a very useful feed in putting on condition and bloom. The only drawback is that it is very expensive. Last winter I changed over to Stabilized Rice Bran and found it worked equally well. The shine it gives their coats is amazing. like the previous poster said it is much cheaper and very palatable.
 
AdorableAlice said:
I looked at this and thought it could be more cost effective than Equi Jewel, but is it ? this is the composition - 20kg £29.00
Rice Bran
Full Fat Linseed Meal
Wheat
Limestone
Sulphite Lie
Vitamin E
Anti-Oxidant

It does not state the quantities, how much rice bran is actually in a bag, could it just be good old linseed marketed cleverly. Equi Jewel composition - 20kg £38.00
  • Stabilized rice bran
  • Calcium carbonate
  • Vitamin E
  • Selenium
  • E280 Proprionic Acid
I feed Equi Jewel to a 25 year old huge hunter with cushings. He is looking good for his age on Veteran Vitality top dressed with oats and 500g EJ.
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Well there is more rice bran than linseed as it’s listed first in the ingredient list. But the linseed was my reason for using it over equijewell in the first place. I have used both and noticed no difference between them in conditioning.

Actually edited to add - on the MJ/Kg basis, conditioning wise they work out similar per £, but obviously composition slightly different. The omega rice is higher protein.
 
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oldie48 said:
Hopefully this thread is proving useful for anyone wanting to put "condition" on their horse. I've always fed micronised linseed but I have read that it should be balanced with vit E and I'm not sure how to do that!
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I don't supplement with vitamin E mine don't get huge amounts so it's not needed, it's only if your feeding a really high oil diet and a mug of linseed a day is not a huge amount.
 
Pinkvboots said:
I don't supplement with vitamin E mine don't get huge amounts so it's not needed, it's only if your feeding a really high oil diet and a mug of linseed a day is not a huge amount.
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Thanks that's helful. I know the sugar beet adds calcium. she's been clipped this morning and i'm pleased to say she's nice and shiny and not ribby. I think by the spring she'll look fab!
 
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last winter my loan horse lost quite a bit of weight and i used equi jewel for a short time and it definitely put the weight on quite quickly, i found it very useful but wouldnt use it unless the horse was thin...
 
oldie48 said:
Thanks that's helful. I know the sugar beet adds calcium. she's been clipped this morning and i'm pleased to say she's nice and shiny and not ribby. I think by the spring she'll look fab!
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Mine are really good doers but I like them to get micronised linseed all year round so they get about 100g in summer and about 200g in winter, it's plenty for a horse that is a good weight for an underweight horse you could double that so it aids weight gain, my horses coats are lovely and shiny and so soft and are well covered, I have had great results with it with every horse I have fed it to mine only get grass chaff with it and one does do a fair amount of difficult schooling, my instructor can't believe that's all I feed them as they look so good!
 
We used equijewel on our mare - she was competing at multi day shows at the time and still growing outwards at 6, so would drop off weight in the show season. It kept condition on her very well although I would agree it is expensive and we didn't use it in the winter.
More recently I've used linseed for a horse with a history of ulcers so something like EJ wouldn't have been suitable. It made a real difference to him , and also meant that he was prepared to eat a rather powdery hoof supplement, so a win-win!
 
silv said:
I have found Equi Jewel to be a very useful feed in putting on condition and bloom. The only drawback is that it is very expensive. Last winter I changed over to Stabilized Rice Bran and found it worked equally well. The shine it gives their coats is amazing. like the previous poster said it is much cheaper and very palatable.
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Isn't Equijewel stablised rice bran? Are you using a more generic brand of it? Can you let me know which one - I don't use much Equijewel but if there is something cheaper and identical then I'll buy that next winter.
 
SEL said:
Isn't Equijewel stablised rice bran? Are you using a more generic brand of it? Can you let me know which one - I don't use much Equijewel but if there is something cheaper and identical then I'll buy that next winter.
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Yes you are correct, maybe I didn't make that clear, Equi jewel is basically rice bran with some additives, where as the one I changed to is just Stablised Rice Bran with no additives. I am not sure if it is available in the UK, it comes into NZ from Australia. http://www.coprice.com.au/product/rice-bran/
 
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