Experiences/opinions of buteless/no-bute please!

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I had Nicola Baguely out to my 20 y/o a few days ago. He has a dodgy pelvis, which at his age will always sit shunted slightly forwards on one side. It took a long time to slowly bring him back in to work, and there are days when he can be dodgy, but on the whole he is fine.

He felt dodgy a few days in a row last week so I got Nicola out just to be safe. Unfortunatly, it looks like it's just the start of mild arthritis in his hocks combined with his dodgy pelvis. Initially she suggested getting a vet to look at them, get them injected etc. However due to his age I have no insurance for him (nobody would touch him for anything but external!) so this isn't really an option.

As he is sound 100% of the time, and 'right' 99.99% of the time she suggested bute after any competitions, long rides, hard work outs etc just to make him more comfortable. She then suggested to try buteless or no bute first, as because he is quite susceptible to cod liver oil (massive difference on half dose) so it may make the difference he needs.

So basically... and experiences or opinions welcomed. Any preference between the two? Or do you suggest I just skip straight to bute?

Have thought a lot in the few days following about my boy and whether he was trying to tell me he needs to stop. But he's been so naughty and full of beans I think he heard me and he's trying to tell me otherwise! New mirrors have been installed in our indoor school this week and it's amazing how high a 20 y/o with a wonky pelvis can kick ONE leg out if he wants to!!!

Thanks in advance!
 
I used a NO BUTE liquid and it made no difference at all?St johns wort?? and then discovered it was full of sugar!

Is on real bute and me thinks if they need medicine they can have it. It definitely has made him more comfortable
 
BentleyBelly said:
I'm now trying turmeric which is really helping interestingly, this article helps explain. www.allnaturalpetcare.com/Holistic_Pet_Remedies/Natural_Therapy_Equine_Osteoarthritis.pdf
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There are huge flaws in that research, not least the undeniable fact that if something is capable of having an effect, it must therefore be capable of causing side effects. Turmeric has very slight NSAID-type prostaglanding inhibiting properties, akin to giving maybe 1/10th or 1/20th of a bute sachet, with the same expected efficacy, risk of side effects yet unknown toxicity due to compounds other than curcumin. It's very trendy though :cool:


J. Agric. Food Chem., 2010, 58 (2), pp 842–849
Anti-Arthritic Effects and Toxicity of the Essential Oils of Turmeric (Curcuma longa L.)

Food and Chemical Toxicology
Volume 48, Issue 10, October 2010, Pages 2951–2959
Toxicity prediction of compounds from turmeric (Curcuma longa L)

Sorry for the sidetrack. OP - the only one with proven efficacy is bute itself, although there is the potential for side effects, they are well known.
 
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