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Well where do i start? Maybe i should start with what a GREAT day is was. Never have i seen people get excited about eventing like they did do then. People where on the egde of there seats. Shouting for who they whated to win. So a big well done to the whole team behind the idea of it. Now for all the small mined people who say it was a bad day. how many of you thought it was a bad day when you where shouting for William or when Oil rode such a great round and showed everyone how it should be done? well done Oil! My guess is you didnt think it was a bad day then. If you did then why didnt you bother staying why didnt you get up and leave? Iam sure if you where wacthing something else that was bad you would get up and leave. New events take time to work, all the great events had to start some where, i know for a fact that some of the geat events that you all watch had a worse time then what EE did. but you didnt right them off in fact you love them now. im sure the whole team of EE have got some ideas now how to make EE better so roll on next year i cant wait for it. As for Mary yes i feel for her having had it happen to me whlie out canter a race horse (maybe we should'nt do that now) i know how she feels, i really do hate to say it but these thigns happen. it only looks worse than what it was because everyone could see it, when it happens out on xc course (as it does) not everyone gets to see what happens, and in fact not everyone knows that someone is going home with out a horse. This is the risk you take when you ride horse no matter if your a happy hacker to a jockey. The only way ever to stop this from happening is to turn the horses out back in the wild iam sure that you dont wanna do that know do you? If you dont like what could happen then dont wacth the sport and dont have anything to do with horses
Well done to all the EE team and well done to Oil roll on next year.
 
I agree SJFAN.

It appears the only ppl **BIGGING** this event up are the winners, the organisers and the children who I know went and didnt really know what was going on.
They were so excited to tell me on Monday, they didnt even realise Cavvy had lost his life.
 
sorry love but things like this happen all the time i know about horses ive been around them for the past 23 years of my life i work with them ive worked with race horses treck horses and now with event horses. there are more horses put down from this than i think you know about, but they dont ever get a 2nd thought about. iam sorry for mary and cavvy but like i said dont wacth the sport if you dont like what can happen.
 
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sorry love but things like this happen all the time i know about horses ive been around them for the past 23 years of my life i work with them ive worked with race horses treck horses and now with event horses. there are more horses put down from this than i think you know about, but they dont ever get a 2nd thought about. iam sorry for mary and cavvy but like i said dont wacth the sport if you dont like what can happen.

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And do you think none of us have, do work with horses in all these industries and have maybe even more **YEARS** behind us to realise that accidents happen?!

BTW Im not *YOUR* love either.
 
"emac", if you really want to try to defend EE, I think you are going to have to do a lot better than that. i'm afraid. It isn't small-minded at all to believe it was a "bad day", and, indeed, a bad competition, when many of the best riders and some of the best horses in the world were humiliated and endangered. To see Toddy, Tina, and so many other great riders having such problems?! It was more difficult than the Olympics, judging by the trouble it caused. Ridiculous.
This is quite aside from the absolutely tragic loss of Call Again Cavalier... that alone would make it a "bad day" for 99% of educated horsey people. Even though it was an accident, which could have happened anywhere, the bitter and inescapable fact is that it happened at a new experimental type of competition.
I sincerely hope the money that was going to be pumped into it gets redirected into BE.
 
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sorry love but things like this happen all the time i know about horses ive been around them for the past 23 years of my life i work with them ive worked with race horses treck horses and now with event horses. there are more horses put down from this than i think you know about, but they dont ever get a 2nd thought about. iam sorry for mary and cavvy but like i said dont wacth the sport if you dont like what can happen.

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And do you think none of us have, do work with horses in all these industries and have maybe even more **YEARS** behind us to realise that accidents happen?!

BTW Im not *YOUR* love either.

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What she said !

And she is my love !
 
so then how do say we make thngs better then, so if was a bad day why didnt you leave? so what about when best mate die did peole stop wacthing horse racing. they where only humiliated because they didnt learn where they where going you think that have £100k would make then try about harder wouldnt you. so the BBs whats your point if you know these things happen, oh and love is just a saying sweet heart
 
Naw Im a sweetheart now
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Emac, try looking for the **How would you improve EE better** post. It may help you.

IMO I dont think it should be made any better. I think it should be shelved.
 
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Why come on here and rattle the cage and upset the HHO forum !

Have children broken up already for Christmas !

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It would appear so... Yawn, December is going to be a very long month.

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Jesus Christ.
By 'humiliated' I meant those who were eliminated - no-one expects to see horses of the calibre of Miners Frolic and Gandalf, ridden by riders of the calibre of Tina and Toddy, getting eliminated, it is ridiculous. The many riders who went wrong were let down by the timetable, they obviously did not have enough time to learn the course; as has been said, those who went later had the obvious advantage of having watched many others ride it already. These are top riders who are used to learning courses, but also to being given enough time to learn them (and no confusing course-changes overnight either, which caught out Nick Touzaint.)
Many of us have many years of experience with horses, we all know that accidents happen and that that is just part of the game, but this particular accident, to a supremely experienced combination who have gone safely around so many of the biggest tracks in the world, is particularly hard to accept as "just one of those things."
Your attitude to many of our top riders and horses almost defies belief, imho.
 
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so how do you make BE better, you can be what ever you like love

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In the words of MRussell, sack them all and replace them with the Chimps in the PG Tips advert.

You can go and play with them too if you like.
 
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"emac", if you really want to try to defend EE, I think you are going to have to do a lot better than that. i'm afraid. It isn't small-minded at all to believe it was a "bad day", and, indeed, a bad competition, when many of the best riders and some of the best horses in the world were humiliated and endangered. To see Toddy, Tina, and so many other great riders having such problems?! It was more difficult than the Olympics, judging by the trouble it caused. Ridiculous.
This is quite aside from the absolutely tragic loss of Call Again Cavalier... that alone would make it a "bad day" for 99% of educated horsey people. Even though it was an accident, which could have happened anywhere, the bitter and inescapable fact is that it happened at a new experimental type of competition.
I sincerely hope the money that was going to be pumped into it gets redirected into BE.

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Could't agree more.
 
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so i guess one is going to pau next year as Tsunami II was put to sleep. that should be shelevd too then

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I don't think you quite understand .
Most people are not boycotting next year because of a accident ( which yes has happened before !)

They are calling for it to be shelved because it was poorly advertised and run not to mention overpriced !
 
I quite agree Kerilli. Leaving CAC out of it, I feel the number of riders that finished compared with the amount that started says it all, and before I get shot down for it I know a few of those were for errors of course. Still doesn't make it a successful event.
I didn't go - purely because I didn't like the idea of it. My view hasn't changed much except to say if the organisers try and run it again - it needs a big over haul I don't believe it will ever work as it is. That said I would be happy for it never to run again.
From what I have heard there are many things I don't like about the event, silly celebrity judges(although perhaps not ALW), dressage scores turned into seconds(and not making much sense by the sounds of it) and the silly pit stop changeover thing to name a few. These are all things I feel need to be changed plus many more most likely. Cavvy's accident could of happened out on a XC course - and to be honest I would have preferred it if it had, seems more fitting somehow than in that stadium.
Like I said I didn't go, so much of my opinion is from what I have read on here but for me express eventing had something to prove and it failed in my eyes.
 
like i said things take time to work
Hickstead didnt work when that 1st started now look at it so no i anit missing the point
 
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