F Word - Horse BBQ

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It is aimed at every single person on here who believes it is perfectly fine to eat horses no matter what suffering they endure ( that we don't see). How can anybody know what these animals suffer before killing and during the process.
What their level of fear of pain threshold is.

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BUT!!! That's just it!!! Haven't you read the replies to both this thread and the one in the Soapbox?? Those who said they wouldn't have a problem eating horse meat almost *ALL* stated that it would only be if the animal were cared for correctly and slaughtered in the most humane way possible. That also goes, for me, for any meat I buy and eat. I would much prefer to spend what little money I have on quality, correctly raised and slaughtered meat than cheap "economy" rubbish. TBH I think you have missed that point just slightly...
 
To be honest I would rather eat meat from an animal that had been kept as a pet, in good conditions with all the care and attention it needed than meat from intensively reared animals. As for eating labrador, well, again it's not something I would choose to eat myself but I don't have a problem with other people eating it - provided it comes from a reputable source. As long as he doesn't try to serve the liver.
 
Again we have stated that so long as the animal is humanly kept & disposed of there is no issue with eating its flesh. That is what humans have done for centuries. When we lived in Kenya we kept hens, when in Yorkshire my mum was feeding rabbits that were destined for the table. Yes my mum could not eat it, but no one else had a problem. And why should they, the animals were kept in good conditions, were well looked after & that was their destiny, to end up as food. Sorry fact of life, we are top of the food chain. Again my issues lay with how we keep these animals & how we destroy them, NOT in eating them. Every culture is different, I dont condem other humans because they want to eat a dog or cat, I condem the way in which they treat these animals!
 
I still don't know where I stand on this one. One half of me screams "no,no, no" when I think of my horses, friends horse etc and eating them, because I love them all and see them all as seperate characters and individuals. However the other half of me thinks-well we have a trend in this country of humanising these animals, and prehaps making out that they are more than they are because of course horses are animals.

I do think we have a very unhealthy culture now especially in Europe and America of mass-producing meat, with very little or no thought of where it has come or how the animal was treated throughout its life. We are the largest and most agressive carnivore on this planet but I do feel we are slightly out of control in the amount of food and meat we produce-the majority of it battery farmed and kept in appalling conditions.
Horse-meat has always been eaten in the past by various tribes in Asia/South America, but I do believe there was a greater respect of the horse before and after it was slaughtered. Theyb slaughtered only enough for survival, and used every single scrap for further survival be it meat, or hide shelter and clothes. Now obviously we have evolved since then, but I feel we have lost a respect of what we eat and slaughter by farming animals irresponsibly and irrationally. Plus the excess waste is really alarming.
Therefore I feel we have a responsibility to eat meat with an awareness of how it was bred, brought up and slaughtered-ie. only buy meat locally, buy organic and pay a little more for such meat.

I don't think eating horse meat is wrong - I personally wouldn't feel very happy eating it simply because I am on such close terms with horses but how can we say it is wrong when the majority of us tuck into bacon sarnies, steaks etc on a regular basis just because we have horses as pets, and use them for a recreational hobby which we are lucky enough and wealthy enough to divulge in.
 
I agree with the comments on how we must as a country make an effort to only eat well brought up, well cared for and humanely killed meat. Horse is not for me, but Im not offended by it. Just the same way as I wouldnt eat frogs legs lol
 
Didn't see the F word so not sure of the facts. However as long as the horse was slaughtered in France and not transported live to London then I don't have a problem with it. Gordon Ramsay has had people up in arms in the past when he reared turkeys and pigs for the table, but he was just showing where our food comes from, and as long as the animal has a good life and is treated well then what are people upset about. I don't think I would ever knowingly eat horse flesh,but that is just a personal opinion. I am not a vegetarian so I am not in a position to tell people what meat they can and cannot eat.
 
I thought that it was horrible, my sister also watched it and was upset. It is a difficult subject, and people become upset thats why she was asked to move away by the police when she attended the horse race.
 
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What an interesting debate. I would willingly eat horse, and in fact have done so a couple of times. As someone said before it is only considered different because people in the UK view horses as pets. People keep rabbits & chickens as pets but there are no compaints about Gorden Ramsey cooking those, some people even keep pigs as pets and again no issue with eating pork. What about fish, those are popular pets and yet freely eaten. In the western world we do not tend to eat other meat eaters which is probably why cats & dogs are not considered food.
 
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Maybe we all should have the ideology when he climb aboard our nags that we are essentially just riding a carcass on legs. Something for our pleasure and exploitation and not that we are in the company of and have the privilege of owning and bonding with one of nature's most beautiful creatures. Perhaps then some of us would not have a conscience!

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That is such a blinkered thing to say.

Do you really think Farmers do not bond or care for their animals? Do you think they do not believe the beasts out in their fields are extremely beautiful? Do you think they sit rubbing their hands together saying "Hehehehehee, can't wait till this lot are chopped up"!!

I have a cow and calf out in the field, I intend to bring the calf on for meat. The calf is still at the spooky stage at the moment. She is slowly gaining in trust. When she does totally trust me like her mother does she will be treated like her Mum. Scratched, tickled, massaged (She loves having her ears, cheeks & neck done), well fed, well watered etc. I will be upset when it comes to D-day but I am not going to keep another cow out in the field just for me to look at.

All animals in our life have a job to do. Horses, we tend to ride. We let the old one's retire gracefully. Dogs are our companions/guard dogs etc. Cats? Ummm, do what ever they like so they don't count.
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Our Cow and calf are with us for meat. Our chickens are with me for eggs and meat. Our Ducks are with me for eggs and meat.

I have the privilege of owning and bonding with a handful of nature's most beautiful creatures. I would/have sacrificed a lot for my animals so don't talk to me about conscience. I have one thank you very much.
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OK, steps off soapbox. *Bonzabean walks up to Cazee34, puts arm around her and says "I wasn't do harsh on ya was I"?
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I've not read all the replies, so apologies if I repeat what anyone else has said. I don't really see how eating horse is any different from eating cow or sheep or pig. Personally, I wouldn't like to meet the cow/sheep/pig/horse I'm going to eat, and if that makes me a hypocrite... well, so be it. But really, if the horses are well-treated and humanely destroyed, I don't see a problem.
 
Dont be ridiculous the farm shown had happy healthy horses that were taken to the slaughter house in a proper horse lorry, I am assuming from your post that you are a vegan???
 
didn't enjoy the programme - felt pretty bad for those horses although i understand many countries culture involves eating horsemeat. maybe we wouldn't have so many badly treated and neglected horses, and so many badly bred ones that don't stand up to work in the UK if we ate them.
My guess is though, that even if we did eat horsemeat in large quantities, horses would be bred for the food chain and we would still have countless abused horses around.
 
i bet loads of horses on those farms are not quite so 'free range'

my own belief is
it doesnt matter what the animal is, all animals deserve a nice life and quick end no matter what their purpose(food/otherwise)


i wonder how many would feel as relaxed about dog meat..?we DO view things differently in different cultures.and thats not wrong, just a personal opinion.as long as you dont try to push it onto someone else it doesnt matter!
 
Well you could say that about people who choose their lobsters before the things are boiled to death. Most of us feel relaxed about that, dont see any uproar from people over it. It is quiet common for some people to walk into their back gardens & pick their next meal either chicken or rabbit. What does it matter whether it is horse/dog cat or whatever, as keeps being repeated it is how they live & end their lives that is important, NOT that they end up on the dinner plate.
 
Personally I would love to eat humans given the chance lol.
Just so long as they had lived a life as natural as could be. Had all their medical and welfare issues addressed.
Given adequate food, shelter and water.
When the time came for them to be slaughtered that it was done in a humane fashion.
Right next question who would happily eat human flesh?
Well seeing as virtually anything goes in this world and we have little regard for our fur and feather compatriots what would it really matter if we added human flesh onto the dinner table.
Humans bred and raised as food now that would be a good idea
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NO WAY....................I only eat Herbivores..........Suppose I could make an exception for a vegan (as long they didn't look, sickly as that is soooooooo unappetising).
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as i'm told that human flesh is supposedly a similar texture and taste of pork, i would decline, as i'm not a fan.
 
Im not bothered either way. I eat cow and chicken etc etc. I wouldnt eat horse particularly but dont see the problem if others do and they are raised etc etc in a humane way.

Unfortunately your arguement about doing the same to humans cannot stand up. Humans are animals but they are also capable of REASON... something other animals are not capable of doing. A cow does not stand in a field saying 'hey I had better make the most of today cos tomorrow I am going to be a steak on someones plate'. Neither does a chicken say 'sod laying an egg today. All that effort and some bloody human comes along and eats it!'.

Mind you there are certainly a lot of humans whose only good for society would be as fodder. Certainly would empty all those overcrowded prisons if we just ate the bad ones.
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Why? In some countries it's seen as normal to eat horse meat. Yes I didn't enjoy that piece but being of the intelligent mind that I am I accepted other people's cultures. We eat beef tat comes from cows which some countries and religions find offensive, does it mean that we must stop or go on an all out war? No, well done F Word and Channel 4 for being so brave IMO. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but have to accept that this is how others live in other parts of our multicultrual world.
 
I have not read all of the posts but I got the jist of the thread from the 1st page. I didn't see the programme last night, I missed it.

I don't eat horsemeat and I'd rather starve then eat it but that is solely MY opinion, I don't like the idea of it, it makes me feel physically sick, nor do I eat Bambi, Baby Cows, Baa Lambs......you get the idea of how my silly head works!! .......it is not sickthough, we British eat cows, pigs, sheep, chickens....whats the difference??

Off to the Soap Box now to have a look at that thread!!
 
i would never even consider eating a horse, you may aswell eat you're own! with cattle and pigs they are'nt handeld and loved unlike the more intelligent animal, the horse. everyones entitled to opinions but im very shocked at the amount of you think its normal!!
 
I keep sheep and pigs to breed for meat for our own family's consumption. We certainly do handle and love our animals - we keep them because that is the only way can be sure of the quality of their life and death.

We kill our own animals here so that we know that they have been handled properly right up to and including their last moments. They are not stressed at point of death BECAUSE they are so used to being handled. They just think how nice it is that they are getting a lovely scratch behind the ears and that's the last they ever know.

I prefer not to eat my "pet" horses for meat but I have no problem with horses as a rule being respectfully kept and killed for human meat consumption. I'm amazed that anyone can happily eat factory farmed meat and then complain about eating horses. My horses will go to the kennels when their time comes - so they will be eaten anyway!
 
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with cattle and pigs they are'nt handeld and loved !

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Not handled and loved?! Have you been on a farm, *ever* ?!
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Obviously not!!!
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