Farrier hit horse in head with hammer

Thing that worries' me is it looked like he hit the horse where his teeth are, as he shaked his head a bit after, I hope that (&&*% farrier has not broken any of his teeth.

Why is he still allowed to trim horses, don't they realise he has to use a rasp and can hit a horse with that. Though I bet he will lose a lot of work through this hopefully.
 
Birker2020 said:
Paul King covered the Surrey area.
Adam Varley was Derbyshire.
Scott Manson was Glos.
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OMG This really brings to light how we trust a farrier, to do their work to the best of their ability and be patient with horses whether they are young or old.


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Cheltenham farrier loses appeal after hitting horse with hammer

Former Cheltenham Racecourse farrier Scott Manson was given the ban for hitting a horse with a hammer.
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Farrier struck off for 12 months questions lack of evidence involved - Horse & Hound

A farrier who has been struck off for “striking a horse with a hammer” has questioned how he was found guilty on just the evidence of one person. Antony Marris was found to have used unnecessary force towards nine-year-old mare Diana’s Pride last August by hitting her with his hammer. He told...
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Ross farrier's animal ban appeal fails

A ROSS-on-Wye farrier who struck a horse nine times with a hammer while shoeing it has lost an appeal for a 10-year ban from keeping and working with animals to be partially lifted
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ILuvCowparsely said:
Why is he still allowed to trim horses, don't they realise he has to use a rasp and can hit a horse with that. Though I bet he will lose a lot of work through this hopefully.
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Shoeing horses is a registered profession which means the governing body can remove or suspend him from the register.

However, anyone is allowed to trim horses’ feet so it is beyond the governing body’s remit to stop him doing that.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
The farriers actions were despicable, especially as this wasn't a quich angry reaction but the owner was also to blame imho. Why would you leave a 3 yr old to stand on its own while the farrier is working on its feet? Let alone the question if would you shoe a 3 yr old?
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It says in the article that the farrier suggested to the owner that they leave him to it, as the horse was fine. I don't think the owner was to blame at all for her horse being hit in the head with a hammer!
 
I entirely agree. There is no excuse for a so called professional to abuse any animal. The owner isn’t to blame for the farrier’s actions.
meleeka said:
It says in the article that the farrier suggested to the owner that they leave him to it, as the horse was fine. I don't think the owner was to blame at all for her horse being hit in the head with a hammer!
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A few years ago someone posted about a farrier that I knew, who kicked their horse. The poster got a lot of grief on here.

(I had used that farrier years ago but sacked him after he crippled the horse).
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We need a HHO shit list. Finding competent professionals is hard enough, worrying that they’re abusive and their governing bodies haven’t barred them is a whole other level of concern.
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We’d never be allowed due to libel etc, though I’d gladly add the name of that farrier to a shit list.

That farrier told me he went back and ripped shoes of clients who sacked him. Also anecdotally he charged for work he hadn’t done (owner not present).
One to avoid covering Cumbria / South Scotland
 
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meleeka said:
It says in the article that the farrier suggested to the owner that they leave him to it, as the horse was fine. I don't think the owner was to blame at all for her horse being hit in the head with a hammer!
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The farrier could suggest what he liked the owner didn't have to do it. I agree that the farrier is responsible for his own actions but imho the owner bears some responsibility, just as she would if the horse had injured he farrier.
The owner isn't to blame for the farriers actions but is to blame for leaving horse alone with the farrier, especially a 3 yr old!
 
Is the horse definitely only 3 at the time of the incident? I read the H&H report as the owner bought the horse as a 3yo not that this was the age at the time of the incident.

People who work FT are often in a dilemma as they only have a limited no. of days leave to cover farrier, vets, saddle fitter, physio. I expect the lady feels bad enough seeing her horse treated like that on cc TV but it's awful how we can't trust any professionals with our animals these days without being blamed for someone else's unacceptable behaviour.
 
nutjob said:
Is the horse definitely only 3 at the time of the incident? I read the H&H report as the owner bought the horse as a 3yo not that this was the age at the time of the incident.

People who work FT are often in a dilemma as they only have a limited no. of days leave to cover farrier, vets, saddle fitter, physio. I expect the lady feels bad enough seeing her horse treated like that on cc TV but it's awful how we can't trust any professionals with our animals these days without being blamed for someone else's unacceptable behaviour.
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As she was on the yard at the time, apparently, I can think of no reason why she left the horse alone with the farrier.
 
Reacher said:
I entirely agree. There is no excuse for a so called professional to abuse any animal. The owner isn’t to blame for the farrier’s actions.

A few years ago someone posted about a farrier that I knew, who kicked their horse. The poster got a lot of grief on here.

(I had used that farrier years ago but sacked him after he crippled the horse).

We’d never be allowed due to libel etc, though I’d gladly add the name of that farrier to a shit list.

That farrier told me he went back and ripped shoes of clients who sacked him. Also anecdotally he charged for work he hadn’t done (owner not present).
One to avoid covering Cumbria / South Scotland
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Do we have one or is it figuratively speaking.
 
People are still using Damien Readman, the Derwent Hunt huntsman and farrier who last year punched a sick horse to the ground after it had got back up after collapsing. He ‘panicked’, apparently 🙄.

Grim covert footage - man kicks prone horse then punches it til it collapses again

Covert cctv strikes again. I cannot vouch for the identity of the horse kicker/puncher, but the antis have ID’d him as a farrier and as a huntsman. He is dressed for riding. I wonder why the horse was lying down in the walkway when wearing a saddle in the first place? Ill or terrified, it...
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Tiddlypom said:
People are still using Damien Readman, the Derwent Hunt huntsman and farrier who last year punched a sick horse to the ground after it had got back up after collapsing. He ‘panicked’, apparently 🙄.

Grim covert footage - man kicks prone horse then punches it til it collapses again

Covert cctv strikes again. I cannot vouch for the identity of the horse kicker/puncher, but the antis have ID’d him as a farrier and as a huntsman. He is dressed for riding. I wonder why the horse was lying down in the walkway when wearing a saddle in the first place? Ill or terrified, it...
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Yep he shoes for someone at my friend’s yard, they just don’t care and say “he’s always been nice to us”.

People constantly disappoint me in this industry (and others) that they will keep supporting horrible men no matter what they do.
 
AWinter said:
Yep he shoes for someone at my friend’s yard, they just don’t care and say “he’s always been nice to us”.

People constantly disappoint me in this industry (and others) that they will keep supporting horrible men no matter what they do.
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I am lucky in that I don't use a farrier, but I can imagine people thinking that their only choices may be a bad tempered farrier who can actually shoe/turn up when he's meant to, a nicer farrier who may be a worse farrier/unreliable. or no farrier at all. I gather that in some areas there isn't much choice. Some livery yards apparently dictate the farrier. In an ideal world people wouldn't need to boycott a rough/poor/rude/aggressive farrier, because the WCF would ensure all farriers met a minimum standard.
 
Cragrat said:
I am lucky in that I don't use a farrier, but I can imagine people thinking that their only choices may be a bad tempered farrier who can actually shoe/turn up when he's meant to, a nicer farrier who may be a worse farrier/unreliable. or no farrier at all. I gather that in some areas there isn't much choice. Some livery yards apparently dictate the farrier. In an ideal world people wouldn't need to boycott a rough/poor/rude/aggressive farrier, because the WCF would ensure all farriers met a minimum standard.
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Mine are very overdue after my bad experience. I'd rather have no farrier than a bad one (they are all barefoot so self trimming on the concrete to a certain extent).
 
This was posted on one of the local pages to me and someone commented about how great he was blah blah and that the owner was a snowflake. As far as i can see, his actions were far worse that just 'lashing out' if it had been a instinctive, split second action, i could almost see, kind of, with a real squint, see why it happened, if it had just been a smack. But its wasn't. He deliberately walked off, got a hammer and went and hit that horse. That was methodical
That horse now thinks he will get a clout round the head for nothing more than just standing there as that was all he was doing at the time.
I have always tried to be there for the farrier, i had one that was a little tricky to shoe behind but my farrier was great and went at his pace, i would have had no issue leaving him with them. I don't think the owner should shoulder any blame as professionals should behave better than this, if the horse was tricky, walk away, phone the owner and arrange for a day when the owner can be there. No excuse to try and cave the horses head in.
 
The Fuzzy Furry said:
Bletchley in Surrey, glad he's the other side of the county from me! Nasty piece of work 🤬🤬🤬
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He's Betchworth (actually lives between Brockham and Leigh). Very close to me! I've never used him, but contacts of mine say his son (Fletcher) is of the same ilk. They also run a car wash, which is next door to them. There's been some dodgy stories around that, too, concerning modern slavery.
 
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Fransurrey said:
He's Betchworth (actually lives between Brockham and Leigh). Very close to me! I've never used him, but contacts of mine say his son (Fletcher) is of the same ilk. They also run a car wash, which is next door to them. There's been some dodgy stories around that, too, concerning modern slavery.
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Yes, sorry, my bad typo.
Glad he's not my farrier, not used him either but a friend did and sacked him last year when it came out locally.
I see on one of the county equine pages that a few were actually standing up for him! 😱🤬🤬
 
The Fuzzy Furry said:
Yes, sorry, my bad typo.
Glad he's not my farrier, not used him either but a friend did and sacked him last year when it came out locally.
I see on one of the county equine pages that a few were actually standing up for him! 😱🤬🤬
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There are far more than there should be comments going along the lines of, its a witch hunt, its a one off, hes been brilliant with my horse, shouldn't destroy his life over this, its bullying blah blah. Basically trying to justify his behaviour as its never happened to them so cant be true, despite the video clearly showing a very methodical, planned attack on the horse as lets face it, that is what it was, an attack.
I still cant get my head around why he wasnt struck off.
 
Odd the suspension isn't for longer, the fact that he hit the horse in the face makes it worse in my book as well as it being calculated. I think Scott was suspended for six months for harrassing his girlfriend and was later banned for 10 years by the courts from keeping & working with animals so if this chap gets taken to court, there could be a ban rather than a suspension.
 
The Fuzzy Furry said:
Bletchley in Surrey, glad he's the other side of the county from me! Nasty piece of work 🤬🤬🤬
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Do you mean Bletchingley?
When I was living up in Bletchingley and was out on site at various yards doing saddlery work I have seen farriers hitting ponies with hammers in the ribs to get them to release their leg.
Some are heavy handed.
 
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