amandap
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I think many of us are very naive about what humans are capable of when roused, to meet their ideals or make dosh. I know I am and am continually shocked and depressed by some of the stuff I read.Really?!
Farrier suspended.
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FionaM12
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I think many of us are very naive about what humans are capable of when roused, to meet their ideals or make dosh. I know I am and am continually shocked and depressed by some of the stuff I read.
True. But I can't believe this (ie a farrier delibrately mutilating a horse out of revenge) can be anything but an extremely rare occurance.
all about Romeo
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Oh yes...
I obviously can`t say anymore but wish I could shout it from the roof tops and warn everyone!! Please don`t leave your horse unattended with a farrier, vet or dentist as although there might be many good and trust-able ones, the ones who are not can get away with it because no one is around to see it!!
FionaM12
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Oh yes...
Please don`t leave your horse unattended with a farrier, vet or dentist as although there might be many good and trust-able ones, the ones who are not can get away with it because no one is around to see it!!
I'm sorry I think that's just alarmist and a tad paranoid. What happened in this case is a terrible and rare act of cruelty. I don't for one minute believe there are lots of vets, dentists and farriers who given the chance will mutilate our horses.
We all choose our professionals carefully I'm sure, and know of cases were we've not been happy with the standard of care. Normally of course the owner or their representative is present when a vet, farrier etc treats a horse, but what exactly is the "it" they would all "get away with" if we weren't present?
joiedevivre
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I am more shocked by the FRC's leniency than the cruelty of this farrier. He should have been struck off for life.
all about Romeo
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I'm sorry I think that's just alarmist and a tad paranoid. What happened in this case is a terrible and rare act of cruelty. I don't for one minute believe there are lots of vets, dentists and farriers who given the chance will mutilate our horses.
We all choose our professionals carefully I'm sure, and know of cases were we've not been happy with the standard of care. Normally of course the owner or their representative is present when a vet, farrier etc treats a horse, but what exactly is the "it" they would all "get away with" if we weren't present?
Maybe but I would rather been safe then sorry, its not rare though that is my point... I have seen may farriers across the country (not just 1) hitting horses and being very aggressive... like I said I can not go into detail and I did say that I am sure a majority are ok but the minority who are not go unnoticed because they are not supervised. (I was not just talking about the kind of mutilation in this case, I meant cruelty in any way across the board)
All the professionals should have an extremely high standard of care... we are of course paying them so have the right to expect it!
cptrayes
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I have received a reply from the Farriers Registration Council about why Mr Wellfair was given such a short ban after deliberately removing as much hoof as he could, so as to prevent the horse from being reshod for as long as possible, from one hoof of two separate horses in two incidents a couple of weeks apart. One horse was damaged so as to expose laminae and draw blood.
They have refused me permission to copy their reply.
In essence, it says that they were considering a life ban, but reduced it to three months in view of:
- his extreme contrition and remorse
- character references given by other clients and vets
- the fact that he admitted the offences in full.
They also say that three months is both a lengthy ban for them to give, and a rare one.
If you think, as I do, that the fact that the Farrier's Registration Council think three months is a long ban, and rarely give a punishment that bad, means that the horse owning public is being let down in a big way, please email them at this address to let them know. I have been told that my emails will be considered at the highest level, please let them know that I am not alone in this if you feel the same way.
frc@farrier-reg.gov.uk
They have refused me permission to copy their reply.
In essence, it says that they were considering a life ban, but reduced it to three months in view of:
- his extreme contrition and remorse
- character references given by other clients and vets
- the fact that he admitted the offences in full.
They also say that three months is both a lengthy ban for them to give, and a rare one.
If you think, as I do, that the fact that the Farrier's Registration Council think three months is a long ban, and rarely give a punishment that bad, means that the horse owning public is being let down in a big way, please email them at this address to let them know. I have been told that my emails will be considered at the highest level, please let them know that I am not alone in this if you feel the same way.
frc@farrier-reg.gov.uk
YasandCrystal
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I know of kind of similar that happened to someone I know. She repeatedly at each visit had to ask her farrier (new one as she had moved areas) to take more toe off her competition horse. Anyway she was away for the last visit and a friend tending to horse asked same thing on her behalf - farrier went mad and hacked far far too much off the toes saying 'there she had better be satisfied now' - anyway he crippled the poor horse!
You cannot work with animals and have a temper. There is no excuse for ever losing it like that. I know of another very true tale where a dentist attacked a horse in temper and it died from a heart attack Unbelievable.
If a doctor or dentist attacked a human patient one would expect them to be struck off.
You cannot work with animals and have a temper. There is no excuse for ever losing it like that. I know of another very true tale where a dentist attacked a horse in temper and it died from a heart attack
Unbelievable.If a doctor or dentist attacked a human patient one would expect them to be struck off.
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all about Romeo
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I know of kind of similar that happened to someone I know. She repeatedly at each visit had to ask her farrier (new one as she had moved areas) to take more toe off her competition horse. Anyway she was a away for the last visit and a friend tending to horse asked same thing on her behalf - farrier went mad and hacked far far too much off the toes saying 'there she had better be satisfied now' - anyway he crippled the poor horse!
You cannot work with animals and have a temper. There is no excuse for ever losing it like that. I know of another very true tale where a dentist attacked a horse in temper and it died from a heart attack
Unfortunately these are not isolated incidents! Hope the horse is better now.
absolutely disgraceful!!!
I would never leave my horse unsupervised with any professional after some of the horrible things I have seen... That is not say they are all bad though.
Achinghips
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Thankyou, have emailed them.
YasandCrystal
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I also know of many cruel trainers. That to me beggars belief too. My WB was abused by one that I have seen complimentary posts about on here.
Ladydragon
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I'm sure his remorse must have been real and extensive... He only waited a week between each disfigurement so had hardly any time really to consider his actions... *heavy sarcasm*
Any vet/customer who feels they can praise him up knowing what he's done must be barking IMO... If they were pleased with him and valued his professional intervention, they should, arguably, be even more disgusted and disappointed to discover what he did compared to a total stranger...
Thanks for the link - I'll send a mail... Still gobsmacked at the 3mth ban...
Oberon
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I know of kind of similar that happened to someone I know. She repeatedly at each visit had to ask her farrier (new one as she had moved areas) to take more toe off her competition horse. Anyway she was away for the last visit and a friend tending to horse asked same thing on her behalf - farrier went mad and hacked far far too much off the toes saying 'there she had better be satisfied now' - anyway he crippled the poor horse!
You cannot work with animals and have a temper. There is no excuse for ever losing it like that. I know of another very true tale where a dentist attacked a horse in temper and it died from a heart attack
If a doctor or dentist attacked a human patient one would expect them to be struck off.
That happened to a friend too.
Hacked right through the white line and then put shoes back on.
Lamed the horse, £350 vets bill, just to prove a point that he didn't like being told what to do
sjp1
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What a lot of weirdos around. Just staggering and disgusting. I never leave my horse unsupervised, not because I don't trust my farrier, because I do, but because my horse is a bit of a monkey sometimes to be shod.