Fast Fibre & Baileys conditioning cubes...?

[dressagelove]

I feed my poor doer conditioning cubes, and I do like it, it has put more weight on him than anything else I have tried.

I have recently put my other tb on fast fibre as recommended off here, as an planning on taking him barefoot. But i also really like that, he seems to love it, and Im told it has good mineral balance in it?

Would it be worth putting my other horse on it as well? I mean, as well as his conditioning cubes? Im just not sure whether they have similar things in them, and whether its just wasting money by feeding him similar things twice...
I would ring a nutritionist, but they all just seem to want to sell you their product, and I cba being hassled.

Any comments?

Thanks

 

[sammiea]

For your one that needs condition they do calm & condition which is the same principle at fast fibre. I was told that feed at the correct amounts you would not need to feed anything else (chaff to mix with if you wish) as it contains the right levels of everything

 

[be positive]

I use Fast Fibre instead of chaff as well as the main feed for some, so would use as you suggest with the cubes, it will add some extra fibre to the diet, slow his eating and has a good balance of vits/mins, once your less good doer gets where you want you could gradually swap the ratio if you wanted to.
I have a young ISH that is on it he maintained a really good weight last winter and had enough energy to work well.

 

[Miss L Toe]

I use FF as the base feed, so I know he is getting his mins and vits, then I add a bit of Dengie non molasses chaff [oat straw and other things] to provide a tasty fibre which has a different base, then I would think about the next feed, eg the conditioning feed, in my case it is micronised linseed meal and hoof minerals for the hoof and skin.
I think you can ask Allen and page. but obviously they will recommend their own stuff.
The most important thing is ad lib forage plus minerals, after that , you are tweaking.

 

[Oberon]

I feed my poor doer conditioning cubes, and I do like it, it has put more weight on him than anything else I have tried.

I have recently put my other tb on fast fibre as recommended off here, as an planning on taking him barefoot. But i also really like that, he seems to love it, and Im told it has good mineral balance in it?

Would it be worth putting my other horse on it as well? I mean, as well as his conditioning cubes? Im just not sure whether they have similar things in them, and whether its just wasting money by feeding him similar things twice...
I would ring a nutritionist, but they all just seem to want to sell you their product, and I cba being hassled.

Any comments?

Thanks

What are the ingredients of the conditioning cubes?

 

[Oberon]

Duh - I found them online

Micronised Wheat, Nutritionally Improved Straw, Wheatfeed, Distillers’ Grains, Micronised Soya Beans, Molasses, Soya Oil, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamins and Minerals, Calcined Magnesite, Sodium Chloride

Micronised wheat - cereal. The effectiveness and action of cereals on the stomach and the bacteria and pH in the hind gut is questioned nowadays.

Nutritionally improved straw - straw - not sure how you can make it anything more than straw?

Wheatfeed - AKA Thirds. A type of bran. Very cheap to buy and good at putting weight on horses. I fed it to my old boy years ago when he went through a bad patch. I can't feed it now I know my phosphorous is high already.

Distillers' Grains - see re cereal

Micronised soya beans - I'd prefer to use soya oil if I needed to feed it.

Molasses -

Soya Oil - easy source of calories and energy.

Calcium Carbonate - limestone flour to balance the phosphorous in the wheatfeed.

Vitamins and minerals
Calcined magnesite - Calmag - cheap magnesium
Sodium Chloride - good old salt

If you are happy (and your horse is happy) with the CC - then why change?

If you really wanted to though, you could substitute with FF, soya oil, wheatfeed (with limestone flour) with the same benefits cheaper.
Unmolassed beet is a good way to provide calories without upsetting the gut.

 

[Ladydragon]

I mix 2/3 Fast Fibre and 1/3 Calm & Condition for my TB... He was a bit of a disastrous mess when he came to us but he's in pretty nifty condition now on that mix... And not at all fizzy...

I stick with Allen & Page for ours just because my brain goes into a total meltdown when I try and compare different feeds...

 

[wench]

If your trying to get condition on, its almost pointless feeding fast fibre with the conditioning cubes - their DE is low, meaning you would be better off feeding either more cubes in the feed, or a higher DE chaff, ie alfa-a oil.