Fed up - b****y horse started rearing again

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Well J hasn't reared since that time he went over backwards on me and I thought he had scared himself silly and that was it.

Apparently not...

Schooled him tonight in my friends menage down the road, he was on edge the whole way there but didn't do anything stupid, worked him in and then started working on the canter, he was wicked and the canter really felt good, then thought we had better work on some aspects of the test we have to do on Sunday, which includes walking down the CL trotting at D the halting at G, this didn't go down to well, obviously too much for his little brain, and he threw a bit of a tantrum. I know now to ride him through them and he usually comes out the other side better than ever.

However this tantrum was a big one, he just kept on and on, and then went vertical in the air, came down and before I had a chance to do anything he went straight back up again. Came down got a big smack and got his nose on his chest and made him trot forwards. Went back to working on our CLs but now have a feeling his tantrums are going to be a whole lot nastier with that rear thrown in
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I really thought he had scared him self out of that one, but it seems he may have forgotten
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As the owner of a horse who also uses rears in her tantrums, I avoid tantrums if at all possible. I will make her work harder if she does something naughty but it'll be by making her do a quartes in circle or something similar to take her mind off stropping.

When she goes up I put my hand towards her eye and that normally makes her turn her head and then she comes back down. She doesnt do it often now, she tends to launch into the contact than just go up against it now
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I am fed up as got so good at riding him through his tantrums and he always goes so much better when he comes out the other side, it is almost dissapointing if he comes out sweet as you know you will never get the best out of him if that makes sense. But if rearing is now part of his tantrums I dont fancy getting into many more
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Don't give up, it may still be a one off! Sometimes problems get better and then a little bit worse again before they are finally sorted! Sounds like you finished on a positive note and got what you wanted out of him, so he may pack it in yet.
 
O poor you... especially after the other day when all was going well. Don't despair. Our pony was inclined to rear, and always had that tendancy... but with time you will learn just how far to push him... into a tantrum to get his head into gear ( I have one that is like that too) but not so far that you get him rearing.
The most talented horses are those that we go to bed thinking about, and those we wake up thinking about.
I have read lots of your posts and appreciate how much effort you have put into the JM... but keep going.
If your confidence is at a low ebb then, no matter how experienced you are, book a lesson. It always seems to help in my experience.
Tommorrow is another day... and so is Sunday!!!!
 
Gahhhhhh, bl00dy J, what will he throw at you next????

You know what I would do? Get off and never get on again, but that's just me
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As it's you and you are (in a nice way) quite MAD
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you just get on with it.

If you managed to get him through it, that is something. I would begin to wonder if he might be feeling a tad uncomfortable somewhere if he hasn't done this for a while. I'm sure his teeth etc have been checked but it may be worth just running though everything just to double check.

Hope he's ok tomorrow hun.xx
 
My friends horse is a rearer, her owner can feel when she gonna start throwing a paddy and quickly spins her in a circle in both directions and then makes her go forward again, they can't rear when their their circling as they haven't got the balance although of course you have to turn them before they go up otherwise you'll pull them over. This has really worked for my friend, her horse has tryed, but not managed to get up since we started this and she doesn't throw paddys half as often now.

Goodluck, hope you sort out this problem
 
mmm..will get his back done in a week or too as will be due, but teeth only just done. Tbh they were proper stroppy rears, and he didn't for one minute feel uncomfortable, just taking his bad behaviour to a new level.

Any other horse and I would be thinking teeth/back/saddle but I'm afraid we went through all that with J before and it is just him, which unfortunately I cant change!

His best trick at the moment are Tigger like bounces when you are plodding along on the buckle, quite impressed the height he reaches! Her then carries on plodding along as if nothing happened
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My friends horse is a rearer, her owner can feel when she gonna start throwing a paddy and quickly spins her in a circle in both directions and then makes her go forward again, they can't rear when their their circling as they haven't got the balance although of course you have to turn them before they go up otherwise you'll pull them over. This has really worked for my friend, her horse has tryed, but not managed to get up since we started this and she doesn't throw paddys half as often now.

Goodluck, hope you sort out this problem

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Eerm some can rear when turning tignt circles, mine can rear facing north and land facing south. He rears at jumps, out hacking, in the field, on the lunge, on the road, and in the stable at feed time. He likes rearing and we love him for it. Sometimes he dosen't rear for months, but he always does when enthusiasm gets the better of him. He's the most beautiful horse we ever saw and is perfect in all other ways.

sorry not a very helpful post!
 
someone once said to me if your horse rears then g et back on and if they do it again for some reason smash an egg on its head!!!!! well i aint heard if this actually works and im just so glad fingers crossed i wont ever have to try it!!!
anyone else heard it ?????

well maybe i may have to try with my yearling if she carries on growing up and been naughty!!! any info on yearlings i would much appreciate as i aint had one before! i have had her and the mum since she was 1 month old.. she has been very placed but now shes getting a bit bigger shes feeling her toes!!!
 
Don't be disheartened! It doesn't mean that he's going to do this regularly. Every so often Ronnie lets his brain switch off and he can do some monstrous rodeo-style bucks. I was afraid when it happened the 2nd time that this was going to be a habit, but although it has happened a couple of times since, on the whole when he loses the plot it doesn't get that far.

It seems to be an extreme reaction for special occasions - if you like. Jerry may be the same (or he may not). But please please don't let it get you down yet. If he is doing it repeatedly then you need to consider your own safety as the biggest priority.
 
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His best trick at the moment are Tigger like bounces when you are plodding along on the buckle, quite impressed the height he reaches! Her then carries on plodding along as if nothing happened
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Ronnie does these! I've never seen another horse do them. He gets hedge-top height. He only does it when hacking out on his own. I was terrified to start with but now I find them quite fun.
 
Donablue - please don't try the egg trick. The theory behind it I think is that the horse is supposed to think it has hit his head and the egg trickling down is supposed to make him think he is bleeding. I have never done this myself (not sure I would have enough hands to hold the egg ready without breaking it before hand!) however... bear in mind , a horse normally moves against pressure, .. so if you hit him on the head , or break something on his head, it is more likely to make him go further up and back! - I have seen this a couple of times, and that is exactly what happens and the horse then starts to panic
Richard Maxwell advocates having a short rope and when the horse goes up in the air to swing this under his belly - when the rope hits his belly the horse immediately comes back down as it is shocked and realises it has exposed a vunerable part of his body... seen it in action and works well.. however you have to have good coordination and balance ! :-)
Mine occasionally decides rearing is a good idea when he does not really want to go out on his own, but I find with him , the best is to stay very calm, make sure that I go forward with him when he goes up and when he does come down to make sure that I push him forward in the direction I want to go. (Normally entails turning in a part circle as the rear is his way to try to turn round to go home.
I am relatively lucky as he is not that brave and if he goes too high, he scares himself ! :-)
 
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someone once said to me if your horse rears then g et back on and if they do it again for some reason smash an egg on its head!!!!! well i aint heard if this actually works and im just so glad fingers crossed i wont ever have to try it!!!
anyone else heard it ?????



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Well I'm ashamed to admit that I did try something similar with a bottle of water ten years ago when my horse first took to rearing - He stopped rearing just long enough to throw me off violently (quite rightly too) and when I recovered and got back on he reared even worse.
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Seriously though it took months + months to get him at all rideable but he's great now. The OP's horse has gone over backwards and I would be quite worried about that as it's so dangerous. If you do want to continue with him I wish you the best of luck - I'm sure he will be worth it in the end.
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