jhoward
Demon exorcist...
max is allergic to apples, along with the beets etc, could it be the actual pollens in the air shes reacting too?? do you many trees around? or crops growing?
Feed allergy advice, please?
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the watcher
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The problem with allergies. and you will know this yourself S if you suffer with urticaria, is that once the skin has reached the lumpy stage then simply anything will set it off, even the contact of a rug or hood. This is why it can be so hard to identify the true cause.
Ideally you need be able to strictly control the food intake, and you can only do this by stabling the horse - and then reintroducing straights one by one. You also need to keep the subject cool and as stress free as possible - so this is a really difficult process if you are going to do it out in the field.
I would cut right down to hay, speedibeet and vits/mins and consider adding nettle tea or wilted nettles to the feed - sounds mad but they do work in some cases
Ideally you need be able to strictly control the food intake, and you can only do this by stabling the horse - and then reintroducing straights one by one. You also need to keep the subject cool and as stress free as possible - so this is a really difficult process if you are going to do it out in the field.
I would cut right down to hay, speedibeet and vits/mins and consider adding nettle tea or wilted nettles to the feed - sounds mad but they do work in some cases
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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max is allergic to apples, along with the beets etc, could it be the actual pollens in the air shes reacting too?? do you many trees around? or crops growing?
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I have a little sort of hedge/wood along the side of my field, but she's been in the same field for a couple of years..and the trees, not being Ents, have not moved.
There aren't any crops for miles, mainly just pastureland.
S
max is allergic to apples, along with the beets etc, could it be the actual pollens in the air shes reacting too?? do you many trees around? or crops growing?
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I have a little sort of hedge/wood along the side of my field, but she's been in the same field for a couple of years..and the trees, not being Ents, have not moved.
There aren't any crops for miles, mainly just pastureland.
S
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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The problem with allergies. and you will know this yourself S if you suffer with urticaria, is that once the skin has reached the lumpy stage then simply anything will set it off, even the contact of a rug or hood. This is why it can be so hard to identify the true cause.
Ideally you need be able to strictly control the food intake, and you can only do this by stabling the horse - and then reintroducing straights one by one. You also need to keep the subject cool and as stress free as possible - so this is a really difficult process if you are going to do it out in the field.
I would cut right down to hay, speedibeet and vits/mins and consider adding nettle tea or wilted nettles to the feed - sounds mad but they do work in some cases
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Her skin patterns are very strange - she comes up in flowery patterns of raised skin, which feels hard, like scar tissue, but can actually disappear overnight, and also more normal round lumps. The skin seldom actually breaks where these patterns are, and she doesn't seem to feel them - they appear to be non painful even if you squeeze them or scrape at them. They are also not itchy for her; she doesn't rub or scratch.
She has never been stabled, and 'Cool and stress free' could be her middle names - I have yet to see her bothered about anything in life - for example when a mini JCB was in her field doing trough pipes, she climbed on the tracks to say 'hi' to the driver
. She probably has the calmest temperament of my three, in fact.
I cut out the supplement on Thurs - and today her lumps are down a lot, so maybe that's a good sign.
Next, I'm going to cut out the Spillers....and so on.
S
The problem with allergies. and you will know this yourself S if you suffer with urticaria, is that once the skin has reached the lumpy stage then simply anything will set it off, even the contact of a rug or hood. This is why it can be so hard to identify the true cause.
Ideally you need be able to strictly control the food intake, and you can only do this by stabling the horse - and then reintroducing straights one by one. You also need to keep the subject cool and as stress free as possible - so this is a really difficult process if you are going to do it out in the field.
I would cut right down to hay, speedibeet and vits/mins and consider adding nettle tea or wilted nettles to the feed - sounds mad but they do work in some cases
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Her skin patterns are very strange - she comes up in flowery patterns of raised skin, which feels hard, like scar tissue, but can actually disappear overnight, and also more normal round lumps. The skin seldom actually breaks where these patterns are, and she doesn't seem to feel them - they appear to be non painful even if you squeeze them or scrape at them. They are also not itchy for her; she doesn't rub or scratch.
She has never been stabled, and 'Cool and stress free' could be her middle names - I have yet to see her bothered about anything in life - for example when a mini JCB was in her field doing trough pipes, she climbed on the tracks to say 'hi' to the driver
I cut out the supplement on Thurs - and today her lumps are down a lot, so maybe that's a good sign.
Next, I'm going to cut out the Spillers....and so on.
S
hellybelly6
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Oh she sounds nice, going up to the JCB to meet the driver!
Its a good sign that the lumps are slowly going.
Forgot to say, my horse intermittently had strange lumps appear on his shoulders and they went as quickly as they came. Not painful, not itchy and they baffelled the vet.
Have you checked the ingredients on the supplement and the nutritional analysis?
Hope she continues to improve
Its a good sign that the lumps are slowly going.
Forgot to say, my horse intermittently had strange lumps appear on his shoulders and they went as quickly as they came. Not painful, not itchy and they baffelled the vet.
Have you checked the ingredients on the supplement and the nutritional analysis?
Hope she continues to improve
htobago
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Dodgson & Horrell (sp?) do a special anti-allergy feed - can't remember what it's called but the SM has put my boy on it cos it's the only thing that doesn't send him completely doolally! Every other so-called 'non-heating' feed seems to be 'heating' in his case. (He's still not what one would call calm, tbh, but at least somewhat less manic and has finally managed to put on some weight.)
Anyway, he was also coming out in little bumps - like heat-bumps but they didn't seem to be heat-related - and these have stopped since he's been on the D&H feed as well. I'm not sure if he really has anything that could actually be called an allergy or intolerance (I'm very wary of these grossly over-used terms, both in horses and humans!) - he just seems to be kind of thin-skinned and hypersensitive.
So not really comparable to your girl, but perhaps the D&H anti-allergy feed would be good for her too? The D&H nutrition-advice people are very helpful, apparently - SM spent hours discussing my boy with them. Worth a phone call, maybe?
Anyway, he was also coming out in little bumps - like heat-bumps but they didn't seem to be heat-related - and these have stopped since he's been on the D&H feed as well. I'm not sure if he really has anything that could actually be called an allergy or intolerance (I'm very wary of these grossly over-used terms, both in horses and humans!) - he just seems to be kind of thin-skinned and hypersensitive.
So not really comparable to your girl, but perhaps the D&H anti-allergy feed would be good for her too? The D&H nutrition-advice people are very helpful, apparently - SM spent hours discussing my boy with them. Worth a phone call, maybe?
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
Hellybelly - she is a nice mare, makes us all laugh, so I'd really like to help her. I can check all the ingredients on her mix and supplement, but without knowing what she's allergic to....it doesn't do me any good at the moment.
htobago - I have found D & H helpful when I've phoned them about other things, and may get back in touch regarding feed. I have found my local feed merchants do Allen and Page Cereal and Sugar free mix, so may try that.
She doesn't seem er....'heated' or 'hot' at all, she is her normal laid back and cheerful self, but then I give her so little mix.
S
htobago - I have found D & H helpful when I've phoned them about other things, and may get back in touch regarding feed. I have found my local feed merchants do Allen and Page Cereal and Sugar free mix, so may try that.
She doesn't seem er....'heated' or 'hot' at all, she is her normal laid back and cheerful self, but then I give her so little mix.
S