I recently took the nuts (and many £££££s) out of Star's diet. I dropped the nuts, upped the Alfa to the rec. amount and added Blue chip. I'm going to replace the Blue chip with Pink powder next week and see how that goes.
Oh, and - she gets carrots.
I did away with the mix and different powders and supplements, now they get Hi-fi lite and lo cal balancer. I now have less spooky calmer horses and a better bank balance
I have to feed the old boy soup due to his teeth, so he gets soaked sugarbeet, alfalfa chop, high fibre cubes and blue chip. He is looking good on it too.
I started using pink powders 5 weeks ago,it has made a difference,considering he is a grey (well almost white)his coat is so shiny and he has a great topline at the moment,he is full of beans recently but i think that is more to do with the season as i have noticed a few other posts about change in behavior this past month
Do you feed compound feeds - yes, high fibre nuts, just a few handfuls in her snak-a-ball.
Do you feed straights - no.
Do you feed chaff/chop - yes, Dengie HiFi Lite.
Do you weigh your feedstuffs - initially yes, when I start a new feed. Once I have found the optimal level for my horse by trial and error then I go back to feeding by the scoop and adjust as necessary through the year. If I introduce a new feed/change the diet I will weigh everything I feed again to get the levels right. I weigh my hay too.
Do you use a supplement - yes, probably too many! At the moment she gets apple cider vinegar for all sorts (supposed to be good for joints, respiration, keeping flies away etc. etc. not to mention it smells lovely and she loves the taste!), MSM for her tendon (tore it nearly two years ago and is still in rehab for it), and Formula 4 Feet as a balancer and foot supplement. The F4F is expensive so when the bag is finished she'll be getting Gold Label Biotin and NAF General Purpose Supplement instead (want her on a GP supplement/balancer as her forage isn't particularly fantastic quality).
How do you rate forage in the diet - very very important. My horse is out 24/7 on restricted grazing, but she gets ad-lib 24-hour soaked hay as well. IMO too many horses are starved of the forage they desperately need, and fed too much concentrate feed. Opinions on feeding forage are starting to change though which can only be good news!
interesting poll!!! really surprised by how many people feed oats!! i couldnt have my chap down wind of a bag of oats, he would spontaneously combust!!
zilke gets
1 scoop herbal chaf
1 scoop of cool nuts or cool mix
small scoop garlic
half scoop of sugarbeet
prince and pappy get
1 scoop of chaff or hi-fi
1 scoop of old faithfuls or 16+
small scoop garlic
1 scoop of sugarbeet
sarah and saffy get
1 scoop of chaff or hi-fi
1 scoop of topscore
and a jug of something else, i cant remember what.. its a supplement in large bag, sure it begins with t..?
lol
and they get carrots, apples, whatever veg ive taken up :L
By some of the responses I think people might think I am depriving my horses of vital things... do you think I am? I did ask on my post the other day and someone said I am feeding the bare basics, but I don't like feeding things like mixes if they are really not necessary.
I prefer to feed fibre and use oil for weigh gain if needed and/or alfa-beet is good. They both have grazing during the day (quite poor compared to last year's), and access to ad lib meadow hay (George's is wetted because of a dust allergy).
ATM I feed -
Lanky 17.3hh WB, good-doer in summer, drops off quickly in winter (keep him warm). 847kg on weigh tape (very rough guide), can feel ribs but not see them, so I have managed to get his condition back again. He is currently in light work because we have no school atm and dark nights restrict work we can do. I currently feed F4F but am changing due to cost so I am listing the supps I will be feeding in place of it when the bag runs out (Pink Powder and Naf Biotin). He is 7 and gets 2 feeds a day of (recently revised):
This reduces a lot in Summer - he will not get beet, oil or probably Pink Powder (not necessary in summer when he is on good grazing and has access to high quality hay), he'll get less Alfa-A. I will give naked oats throughout the year leading upto a show/dressage comp/hunting or fun ride - just a handful in each feed from about 4 days before, as I am not giving a mix all the time, so he is not getting unnecessary feed for his workload.
George is an 18 year old, 15hh welsh D. He is a very very very good doer all year round, but I am in control of his weight. I can now feel his ribs (but not as well as Lanky's, possibly due to the thick coat!) but not see them. He glows with health and apart from dust allergy is healthy. He is 540kg on the weigh tape. He is also in light work, just hacking at weekends and sometimes during the week. Occasional fun rides etc. Again, feed F4F until end of the bag, but moving to PP and NB. He gets 2 feeds a day of:
Handful Hifi Original
1/2 cup BOSS
8g Pink Powder
25g Naf Biotin
12.5g Secreta Pro (TBH, with the supps, I usually just put them in one feed rather than weight them out and faff!)
This is his winter feed and in Summer he probably won't get the PP, like Lanky, and will have Hifi Lite instead of Original, just one feed a day with a handful in it.
Christmas Carrie, I think your feed sounds fine, I only feed safe and sound chaff and either baileys stud balancer or lo cal balancer to my horses and as much hay as they can eat, some live out and some are stabled and they all look great. I dont believe in feeding mixes when they are not necessary either.
I feed 3/4 scoop pony nuts and 1 hifi to my big baby (with hay) morning and night.
1 scoop Pony nuts and 1/2 cup balancer to my mare (with haylage) morning and night.
And 1 cup balancer and handful chaff to my boy (with hay) morning and night.
I will probably stop the balancer soon and feed a vit/min sup instead and give my boy a handful of nuts to keep him happy.
There is so much on the market i get confused my 8yr old 15.1hh Connermara X Id who is in moderate work approx 5 times a week we r now up to 30mins at the min as he coming back from a fractured pedal bone injury
Square Scoop of soaked calm and condition
Large round scoop of Spillers conditioning fibre
feedmark benevit advanced and flexi suppliment also garlic and soya oil
carrotts and apples.
He has this amount twice a day brekkie and tea
I strip graze him which he has decent amount each day and a good sized hay net on a night. He looks well and is starting to muscle up again now he is coming back into work I do not follow guideline for calm and condition as it is a rediculous amount.. For you experts how does this sound? x
Sunsilk gets 3/4 scoop Hi Fi Lite and at the moment as she isnt in much work 1/4 scoop of D+H Leisure Mix which goes up with the amount of work she does. She gets 3 slices of hay a night and is out all day.
JJ at the moment is out of work and living in the field and gets 1/2 mollichop and 1/2 Pony nuts as the grass isnt great and she has never lived out all winter before!
Neither of them get any supplements although Sunsilk will have some Soya oil for the showing season, when i remember to buy it!
My young TB mare was prone to occassional rearing fits to say the least! My instructor suggested the following diet (the word oats scared me at first), taking out all the sugar, it has had the most amazing effect, she still has her spark, but her moods have completely levelled out and her feet remain where they should do. I have now put my other horses on this diet, young and old, its great, and very cost effective.
Oats
Unmollassed sugar beet
Vit and Min supplement
Mine gets 1 scoop Alfa A, with 1/2 a scoop of speedie beet. This is fed twice a day, she has a huge net of haylage at night.
She is a fairly good doer, but I will add some Hi fibre nuts as her work load increases, right now she is fine on this.
My old git gets,
3/4 scoop bran
1/2 scoop apple chaff
1/2 scoop d&h country comp mix
But am chainging this to spillers response instsnt energy
Nd 2 scoops of codlevine powder in two feeds a day, he gets add lib hayledge 3 times a day,
Feed straights, oats, barley, sugarbeet and alfa a. He has to have an iron supplement as he as a tendency to become anemic and its the only way to keep him healthy. Reccommended by vets!
I feed mine Bailey's Stud Balancer or D&H Sure Grow, plus Readigrass or Graze On for bulk, plus ad lib seed hay. They do great on it. (All mine are youngstock, I might add!)