Feeding advice (two scenarios)

[SpottyTB]

Hi all, I'm after some advice please two different scenarios!

Scenario one; 15.1 7 year old mare in light work, lots of grass available, stabled at night, fed once a day.
ATM she has 1 round Stubbs scoop of beat, just under a scoop of horse & pony nuts and a scoop of chaff. (Garlic and biotin).

I'd like to put more condition on her and maintain the weight.. Any advice on what I can replace the nut with? I'd like to try a more fibre based diet as she's a stressy horse and I worry about ulcers! 1 slice of hay at night!

2nd scenario: 18 month Lippizaner X TB gelding. Very little grazing (mostly mud), use of shelter, rugged and fed twice a day on; 1 round Stubbs scoop of chaff, 1 round scoop of beet, half scoop of mix, half scoop of barley rings (twice a day).. I will add this is my mil's choice of feed not mine, I'm looking for alternatives to suggest as he's fairly ribby and needs condition - isn't getting it from all of that feed! Two slices in a hay net am (shared with my foal) and three/four slices at night in shelter (shared again)..

Thoughts?

 

[be positive]

Can the mare have her feeds divided into 2, it will benefit her more, also will she eat more hay 1 slice is not much even if it is from a big bale unless very thick.

The same with the youngsters I would look at giving hay ad lib before increasing the feeds.

Things to try otherwise for the mare linseed or oil would be good for weight and ulcers without making her fizzy. Not sure about the youngster but again linseed could help, it is getting rather a lot in one go 3 scoops of feed is too much for it to benefit from, much will be pushed through too quickly which may be why it is not doing well, dividing into 3 or 4 may be better but upping the hay would be the first change to make.

The garlic will possibly not be helping if you are worried about ulcers try cutting that out and replace with something to aid digestion such as yea sac or brewers yeast.