Feeding for oomph but not fizz???

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Any ideas?? Till's has just started to drop a little weight, not much but having not been fed all summer (24/7 t/o) I think it is now the time to start giving her some more calories and nutrition as the quality of the grass is dropping off (that said, we have loads of it!).

In addition to this she has been totally idle recently, finding work very hard and feeling quite lethargic with it. Doesn't stop her being very sharp and behaving like a general idiot on speed when the mood takes her hence not wanting anything that will fizz her up as such! Just need something to boost her stamina/energy reserves. (And no, there are no physical issues, this is just the way she is).

So any suggestions for feeds which:
- provide stamina
- have good nutrition values including protein
- are low sugar/starch
- are conditioning
- shouldn't provide fizz
 
unmolassed sugar beet for low sugar/starch slow release energy.
Very little sugar in unmolassed beet, or the sugar manufacturers aren't doing their job.

soaked whole oats (at least 36 hours) provides conditioning feed without fizziness. The soaking it for that long changes it from being a starchy grain to being a growing plant (it starts shooting, like beansprouts).

I try not to do too much protein as it can cause tying up so I avoid any alfalfa

I also feed soya oil or corn oil for extra calories/conditioning without starch.
 
Sorry, should have said, have tried soaked oats in the past and it completely blew her brains and turned her quite nasty to handle - stopped feeding them and she returned to her lovely normal self within a week so they are out.

Equally dengie chaff of any description is a complete no no for similar reasons (though why this is the case I have no idea!)

Last winter she had hoofkind chaff with alphabeet and micronised linseed which she seemed to do OK on but did very little work so was very much a maintence feed. I added some topspec conditioning flakes when she needed more condition the last few winters but am wondering if these will give her the oomph I am after??

I had wondered about a fibre based endurance mix or similar??

Feeding seems to be such a minefield!
 
Drifter is on Winergy Equilibrium Condition and I am stunned by the improvement in him since I changed to this. If you contact the Mars Nutrisionists they will talk you through the best feed and even send you a decent size sample.

I'll PM you Kates email and it wont cost you anything to talk to them except time they have been very helpful.
 
P tried Staypower Cubes but I didn't notice any difference, largely because I think the sack should have only lasted a week at their recommended rates and that was far too much feed for her.

She's now on Tiger Oats and the difference is great. I can play about with the amount I give her according to her workload.

Shame Tilly reacts to oats.
 
Alpha A Oil & Allen and Page Power and perform works really well for my TB mare, gives her long term energy to work without fizz
 
Is the Spillers stuff conditioning too or would I have to feed something else on top of this for condition?

Jemima - can't feed dengie, AlfaA oil is a total no go!

Kerilli - AlfaA is also out. No idea what it does but I can't even handle her on it, let alone ride.
 
I would feed topspec and topspec cool condition cubes, as they can upped and downed, but the TS supplement/balancer (whichever you choose) gives them all the nutrients. Either that. or as said Allen and Page Power and Performance, or Calm and Condition (half strength P+P )
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I have very sharp spooky tb .She has turned corner on allen and paige calm and condition last month on yo recommendation I changed from usual dengie alpha a to ozzie chaff ,this has resolved the 6ft spooky sideways leap that we had on hacks.Things are looking up
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Graze-On and unmolassed beet. Graze-On is grass, so it would make sense to feed her this if she's done well on TO over the summer.

Unmolassed beet is just generally great, v. low sugar.

You could add micronized linseed if she's still needing more energy.
 
Formulating a suitable diet can be a real pain, can't it? Have you looked into Saracen Releve? It's around 12% starch, so nice and low, it's high oil, so would be conditioning, and would provide slow release energy too. Might be worth a look?
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i'm a topspec fan - mine is on the balancer, cool condition cubes and super conditioning flakes as well as Bailey's Outshine plus alfa-a oil and sugar beet. he is a hothead but can lack energy if he's in lazy mood - cant give him anything with normal cereals in as it blows his mind.
 
We feed this:

http://www.primeroequine.com/

Every horse in the yard is on it, including a 2yold warmblood, 3 haflingers, the cobs, an 18 yold TB gelding, a 30yold TB gelding and the advanced WB stallion.

All are looking very well and are very chilled and calm, but can certainly work well when needed to. It seems to give the cobs oomph and we have no issues with too much fizz. The TBs are keeping their weight on and look better than they have done for years.

I was sceptical about it when I first moved to the yard but I'm very happy with the results.
 
Something to provide slow release energy such as D& H Staypower Cubes/ Spillers Slow Release cubes, fed with Alfalfa chaff. To be honest all of the feed companies make these types of feeds which are high oil/fibre / low starch and should be able to advise you what is the best one for your horse.
 
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