Feeling fed up!

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I hope I don't come accross as selfish or cold hearted in this post.

But latley I have lost all confidence and motivation to do anything. It doesn't help that Ruby has started being incredibly naughty when being ridden. She has also started being naughty on the ground. Some days shes fine, others she is a horror. I still like going to the yard, I do enjoy seeing her. But when she is being a PITA I just can't bear to even be with her. She is hacking out now and is sound. She is struggling in the school still. So I am unable to lunge/school/long rein to give her any extra exercise. I would love to school and have lessons again and even jump. But she just can't do it. I'm not sure if its her stifle or something else. She has had pysio and vet out before anyone says anything. She is insured, but not on one hind (stifle injury) and I can't afford for her to have scans done right now (which vet says is next step) I have already spent over £1000 trying to get to the bottom of it. The other leg would be fine as obviously its covered by my insurance.

I sometimes feel very envious of everyone elses Horses. Because they seem to have very straight forward Horses (I know this isn't the case with everyone) but it just hasn't worked out for me. She has a stifle injury, mild COPD, she has only been hacked in the last 2 years, she is a spooky hack too. In the summer, she was lovely. I was riding almost daily and was trotting and cantering. Now I can barely trot as she is so forward going and full of energy. She gets daily turnout, however she is kept on individual turnout (I have asked to switch but YO won't let me) she is fed adlib soaked hay (for the COPD) and Fast Fibre. Its all become such a hassle. I can't ride, when I do pluck up the courage too, she mucks about (I have always been a nervy rider, she has always looked after me) shes trashing her fencing, mucking about on the ground. I have a confident sharer who hacks out twice a week.

I have tried to find grass livery near me and having no luck. Everywhere is clay soil round here, so hardly anyone has 24/7 turnout (the nearest place is 40 minutes away!) This is the first winter at this yard, so perhaps she just isn't settling there. Last winter, I could let a toddler lead her, this winter she is mostly good, but when in a mood, bucks and rears up! I am confident on the ground, but still isn't fun dealing with her.

It's very hard to write and admit, but I don't think she is right for me :(. However due to her problems I have listed, I could never just sell her on. I don't think there would be a market for her. If she was sound, I would have probably put her up for sale already. Although in the summer I love riding her, I feel very confident with her and we got on so well. She was living out with a herd then. No hard feed.

Perhaps this is just the wrong yard for her, I do feel she would be better with other Horses as she is a very socialble Horse. Perhaps she just has all this extra energy that she would usually use up playing with the other Horses. She has broken out her field 4 times now (she has never ever done this before, she has always been respectful of fencing) I am still very close with my old YO. She was very understanding and said I could go back whenever I wanted, even if its just to socialize her and move on again (spoke to her Monday, she was shocked at Ruby's behaviour as she was so laid back)

I just feel so confused and down about it all. On one hand I do love her, in the summer I love riding her, on the other hand, once her turnout is restricted she has all this extra energy which I just can't deal with. Its like she is 2 different Horses. One I love, one I don't. Don't get me wrong, I do still provide everything for her, she is seen too twice or threee times a day, sees the farrier reguarly, nice stable with nice bedding, good quality hay etc.

Smarties if you got this far! I'm sure sure what I want anyone to say, it just helps to write it all down.
 
Stop giving her any hard feed - give her a mugful of low calorie balancer if you are worried about her getting all her vits and mins. It may be that she favours the one leg because of the past injury - my mare rested one hind while she was pregnant and feeding the foal and ended up lame on it, but lots of schooling work has her using the leg properly now, and unless she's been kept in and is very stiff (like she has been while the fields were flooded), she is completely sound. Why can't you lunge her before riding in the school? If the only physical reason for the unsoundness is that she isn't using the leg enough, gradually building up the lunging would be a positive.
 
Stop giving her any hard feed - give her a mugful of low calorie balancer if you are worried about her getting all her vits and mins. It may be that she favours the one leg because of the past injury - my mare rested one hind while she was pregnant and feeding the foal and ended up lame on it, but lots of schooling work has her using the leg properly now, and unless she's been kept in and is very stiff (like she has been while the fields were flooded), she is completely sound. Why can't you lunge her before riding in the school? If the only physical reason for the unsoundness is that she isn't using the leg enough, gradually building up the lunging would be a positive.

She is lame in the school. However this school is deep, so I tend not to go in there. I was schooling at old yard once a week and providing I wasn't doing small circles she was sound. I thought Fast Fibre was completly non heating as was sugar free?
 
I really think you have answered your own question.... some horses just won't settle on individual turnout, they start feeling insecure and like you said also have extra energy to burn. I would try finding another livery for her, back in a similar environment from when she was happy. Not sure if I missed this, but why is so difficult for you to move her back to her old livery permanently?

Sorry to hear she has other issues with her health, but as long as she can hack nicely (once you get over the behaviour things) she should still be a pleasure to ride and enjoy, whether you decide that is with you or someone else.
 
I really think you have answered your own question.... some horses just won't settle on individual turnout, they start feeling insecure and like you said also have extra energy to burn. I would try finding another livery for her, back in a similar environment from when she was happy. Not sure if I missed this, but why is so difficult for you to move her back to her old livery permanently?

Sorry to hear she has other issues with her health, but as long as she can hack nicely (once you get over the behaviour things) she should still be a pleasure to ride and enjoy, whether you decide that is with you or someone else.

I would like to get her back into a herd turnout field. I do think this would help. Shes always been a tad spooky but thats fine. But usually she is more of a kick-a-long then a cling on for dear life ride :p

I moved off there for a couple of reasons. The YO and YM (mother and daughter) are friends of mine. They have always been so suportive and even when I moved we all kept in contact. The reason why I moved was because the hacking is pretty bad where they are. There are only about a few hacks to go on and all involve roads (2 very busy) there were no other liveries (well one nice man who doesn't ride) so knowone to ride with either. The land was also quite small, so quite often we would have to hay the fields in winter, which was costing a bomb and it was hard soaking that much hay. The other Horses didn't go out too much, so mine was spending a lot of time by herself. I love my old YO/YM though. We always had such a laugh and there was no nastiness or things going missing etc.
 
I dont think you sound selfish or cold hearted. You come across as fed up and honest about it and it takes a brave person to come onto a forum and say they are fed up with the horse they are supposed to gush over and adore all the time ... Sometimes its just bloody hard and sometimes horses are complete *****ts. I currently dislike mine and ive not even had her that long, lol :o
 
I think she needs to move back to where she was happier. If she were mine I would turn her away completely (unridden) for at least a year. I bet that her injury could heal enough to return her to full soundness with plenty of time unridden.

How old is she and how big? What was the nature of her injury and is she on bute or equivalent?
 
I dont think you sound selfish or cold hearted. You come across as fed up and honest about it and it takes a brave person to come onto a forum and say they are fed up with the horse they are supposed to gush over and adore all the time ... Sometimes its just bloody hard and sometimes horses are complete *****ts. I currently dislike mine and ive not even had her that long, lol :o

Thank you. Its nice too know I'm not alone! lol

Wagtail, I have been conseriding moving from this yard, but not nessacerely back to the old one. As although she was happier, I wasn't as I was riding the same hack over and over, plus her cough was bad, because the hay kept being chucked out dry.

I would like a yard, where there are no more then 10 Horses. 24/7 TO in summer and daily in a small group in winter. With a nice school and good hacking. I'm not fussed on Horse walker or anything like that.

She passed a 5* vetting in May 2010. A few months after she began to favor one hind more then the other. Vets were baffled, so suggested pysio. Pysio came and suggested vet. Vet then said the problem was her stifle and it hadn't really "activated" properly (his words) she had 3 steriod injections and was in hand hacked for 3 months. T/O was limited at this yard, so moved to one with more turnout and great hacking. I didn't know then that she wouldn't like the individual turnout. She isn't on bute currently.
 
How about turning her away back on the old yard for 6mnths? Firstly to see if it makes any difference to her injury, & secondly because if you can't ride her at all,it might make you feel better when you can. In an 'absence makes the heart grow stronger' type of way. Meantime either have lessons or even just hack a confidence giving type yourself. Then bring her back to work, either with the idea of a return to full work if she is 100% or just as a hack. And then either way, if she's going nicely but still not the one for you, you could put her out on long term loan, even if its just as a hack, & either loan or buy something that suits you more.
 
It seems a lot of people have had problems lately with their horses behaviour, my usually placid connie has now been giving my daughter a hard time when being ridden. We have had the saddler out twice, the vet and physio. He has had a change of yard a few months ago and doesnt seem happy to me. He used to have daily turnout with a small group of geldings and now has individual and very restricted! I'm desperatly trying to find another yard but not easy as any decent ones are full in our area. I'm going to have to look further afield and also i'm going to change his feed to mollichaff calmer, see if it makes a difference with his nerves. Just thought I'd post as although I don't have any advice I can understand where your coming from :)
 
I would like a yard, where there are no more then 10 Horses. 24/7 TO in summer and daily in a small group in winter. With a nice school and good hacking. I'm not fussed on Horse walker or anything like that.

Wouldn't we all?!

I'm not far from you and I feel your pain with the clay soil. It's rubbish for turnout and the yards round here just can't (in some cases won't :cool: ) offer decent amounts of turnout. And the concept of a decent surface seems to have missed most of Essex - I can't remember the last time I saw a normal yard with a surface that wasn't a foot deep. I hope you find a solution.
 
Thanks for all the replies.

Littlelegs, I would love to have her somehwere where she can live out. But round here there just aren't any places :( I have even looked into renting a feild (obviously I would find her some company) but there is nothing. The nearest 3 places that offer this are over 40 minutes away. Which means I would only be able to see to her once a day. If she went back tot he old yard, she would be stabled at night (they do have the odd night out though) they don't have the grazing to allow 24/7 in winter. Also do you think there would be a market for a Horse like her? Loaning is a great idea, so I can keep tabs on her.

JFTD thank you. The school was actually ok when I first got there, but then for some reason they added more. Even some of the sound Horses struggle in there (one tripped over the other day) they don't own a harrow so this is part of the problem.

My old YO is so lovely, she said if I wanted to go back even if it was for a month I am more then welcome.
 
Sorry, I should have been clearer, I know you'd already said finding 24/7 winter turnout was an issue, I meant more turn away without riding for 6mnths, even if she does need to come in at night still, rather than turn away as in out & roughed off.
 
Sorry, I should have been clearer, I know you'd already said finding 24/7 winter turnout was an issue, I meant more turn away without riding for 6mnths, even if she does need to come in at night still, rather than turn away as in out & roughed off.

Ohh ok. I get you.

I would, but I'm not sure how her stifle would deal with that. Its much better when shes kept in regular work.
 
It sounds like the yard could be the issue. Try another yard and see how you go winter us hard for us all and were not far off spring now. Hope it works out for you.
 
Thank you. Its nice too know I'm not alone! lol

Wagtail, I have been conseriding moving from this yard, but not nessacerely back to the old one. As although she was happier, I wasn't as I was riding the same hack over and over, plus her cough was bad, because the hay kept being chucked out dry.

I would like a yard, where there are no more then 10 Horses. 24/7 TO in summer and daily in a small group in winter. With a nice school and good hacking. I'm not fussed on Horse walker or anything like that.

She passed a 5* vetting in May 2010. A few months after she began to favor one hind more then the other. Vets were baffled, so suggested pysio. Pysio came and suggested vet. Vet then said the problem was her stifle and it hadn't really "activated" properly (his words) she had 3 steriod injections and was in hand hacked for 3 months. T/O was limited at this yard, so moved to one with more turnout and great hacking. I didn't know then that she wouldn't like the individual turnout. She isn't on bute currently.

If she really isn't the horse for you and if she is not likely to be able to do the things you would like to do with her, you could consider the blood bank. So long as she is under 15 years old and 16 hands or more. They get turnout all summer in huge herds and come into the barns in winter time. But it's a very nice natural life for them.
 
She is 14.2 and 7 years old. Sorry I know someone asked that before. I was trying to remember all the questions I was asked lol.

In the summer she is the Horse for me, even though she has medical issues that hold us back sometimes (although thats not her fault) But its the winter I am struggling with. Not with the jobs or going up twice a day etc, I actually like doing that. But with riding, as she just has so much more energy and shes so much more alert (although wasn't like this last winter) I managed to trace most of her old owners and as far as I am aware, she has always been turned out in a mixed herd.

I will have a look at other yards. Although I know I won't get the 24/7 turnout I want. I can atleast give her some company.
 
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