feeling guilty- asking livery to leave.

nikkimariet said:
They would be denied all access with immediate effect if it was my yard.
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Completely agree!
Not a chance would I be letting them back on the yard if it was my yard!
They'd have to contact to arrange collection of her things and horse, then bill her for the care of her horse during that time.
 
Apart from the infections and diseases the unknown horses could bring in to your yard and pass on to your horses.
I would not let her have her horse back until she has either paid you for the stabling and/or cleared the fields of Poo.
I would also ask to see the passports of the horses concerned.
 
You poor thing!

Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but alongside the possibility of infection it is highly likely your field and horse now have resistant worms. I would have a chat with a vet or someone from Westgate Labs or similar, I suspect you need to do a resistance test for your horse (redworm and tapeworm) and will need to rest the field for at least 6 months even if the poo is cleared - ideally you would graze with sheep or have a silage cut taken.
 
No sign of livery.
I have given the squatter some hay. She has now been here nearly 48 hrs stuck in a stable with no view of any other horses.
I have called the livery and told her to come here now, her answer she has been busy.
She says she is trying to arrange transport????????
Gate is padlocked so she will have to call us to let her in.
 
alison247 said:
No sign of livery.
I have given the squatter some hay. She has now been here nearly 48 hrs stuck in a stable with no view of any other horses.
I have called the livery and told her to come here now, her answer she has been busy.
She says she is trying to arrange transport????????
Gate is padlocked so she will have to call us to let her in.
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Well done you. Stay strong!
 
alison247 said:
No sign of livery.
I have given the squatter some hay. She has now been here nearly 48 hrs stuck in a stable with no view of any other horses.
I have called the livery and told her to come here now, her answer she has been busy.
She says she is trying to arrange transport????????
Gate is padlocked so she will have to call us to let her in.
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immediate transport = bridle and lunge rein with her leading the horse. she needs to be gone with the one in the stable tonight and if it was me therre would be a bill for stabling to be paid when she removes the horse. she is a total p1sstaker and has compleyely taken you and your trust for granted and abused it thinking you would not be there.
 
alison247 said:
No sign of livery.
I have given the squatter some hay. She has now been here nearly 48 hrs stuck in a stable with no view of any other horses.
I have called the livery and told her to come here now, her answer she has been busy.
She says she is trying to arrange transport????????
Gate is padlocked so she will have to call us to let her in.
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Have you informed her that she needs to remove all the horses? I am afraid under the circumstances I would not be hanging around waiting to speak face to face at her Liberty, I would be calling/texting and demanding she remove her horses and the interloper with immediate effect
 
FfionWinnie said:
Change the gate code and give her set times to attend until evicted ��
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This^

very dodgy bringing strange horses onto your yard with god knows what skin diseases or ailments.

I would give her till the end of tomorrow and say if her stuff and the horses are not gone, you reserve the right to put all her stuff the other side of the gate including the horses.


We had a dodgy mother and daughter here once , did not pay her rent all excuses under the sun, horse disappeared to the so called vet ( lies) and never came back. Her name was Karen with a tall daughter with buck teeth we then found out later she stole horses to sell and she left a dead colt on the muckhill.

We found because they had accidentally left the previous owners details on the back of the form, and the company was called and they contacted the old owner and they said "She did not buy my horse she stole it".

Change the locks and make sure you have someone you can trust with you all the time in case they come back at night
 
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Um......... (sorry should have posted this with my earlier one), OP not trying to frighten you but it may pay you to get the vet in and have a look-see at the other horses on the yard as well, if this livery does leave satisfactorily.

Also as someone else has said, you may need to consider pasture management also.

Personally I'd be getting a spray-pack and disinfecting out her stables too, I wouldn't take any chances.

I don't know whereabouts in the country you are OP, but in my area (East Devon) there's been an outbreak of Atypical Strangles...... seriously, you cannot be too careful.
 
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite said:
Um......... (sorry should have posted this with my earlier one), OP not trying to frighten you but it may pay you to get the vet in and have a look-see at the other horses on the yard as well, if this livery does leave satisfactorily.

Also as someone else has said, you may need to consider pasture management also.

Personally I'd be getting a spray-pack and disinfecting out her stables too, I wouldn't take any chances.

I don't know whereabouts in the country you are OP, but in my area (East Devon) there's been an outbreak of Atypical Strangles...... seriously, you cannot be too careful.
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Yes, this would be one of my concerns too! There's a lot of it about at the moment, can never be too careful!
 
GONE!
My OH went out and let her in.
She was contrite, no apology or explanation.
She just said I have come to get my horses. Good said my husband.
She then told him its cost her a fortune to hire the horsebox and she has to drive them to Hampshire now as nowhere in Kent for them to go. AND her gran died yesterday.
She has taken my large 6ft blanket trunk as she had all her gear in it and said she will give us a tenner for it when she comes back to muck out the 48hrs worth of mucky stable and poo pick.
I BET!!!
 
alison247 said:
GONE!
My OH went out and let her in.
She was contrite, no apology or explanation.
She just said I have come to get my horses. Good said my husband.
She then told him its cost her a fortune to hire the horsebox and she has to drive them to Hampshire now as nowhere in Kent for them to go. AND her gran died yesterday.
She has taken my large 6ft blanket trunk as she had all her gear in it and said she will give us a tenner for it when she comes back to muck out the 48hrs worth of mucky stable and poo pick.
I BET!!!
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Hah! Chance will be a fine thing! Whilst I would have made her take her stuff out, I can imagine for you, it's worth losing the box just to be rid of her!
 
The trunk is small fry in comparison. Well done to you and OH.
Assuming your horses are now in the summer field, could you harrow the winter paddock rather than collecting all the poo? Not ideal I know, but if there's that much there, removing it might be too much work? That's of course, assuming she doesn't come back to do it. Why do I assume that? :rolleyes:
 
Oh good, a satisfactory outcome.

Now OP, PLEASE take action to make sure you don't get put in this same position again. Am not trying to patronise or teach granny to suck eggs here, or in any way to be critical. BUT sometimes gal you just gotta Woman-Up and grow some...

Firstly: you and OH make sure that ALL gates, locks, and combinations are changed ASAP. Yes it may cost you, and yes it will be hassle, but deffo worth it.

Second: clear out EVERYTHING in the stables which she's used, I mean everything. Then go get a spray-pack and bung some suitable disinfectant in, and go round the place well. You cannot be too careful.

Third: worm both your horses and that of your remaining liveries as well and ensure that you have a policy in place re. future worming & pasture management, be that worm counts, regular worming, or whatever, as long as there is a regime in place which EVERYONE on the yard must adhere to.

Fourth: isolate ANY horses that may have been in contact with those that have been coming and going. Get the vet to check if ANY concerns.

Fifth: remove any remaining poo from fields and if possible get some sheep or cattle to graze-off the fields.

Sixth: firm-up your arrangements at your yard. If you are intending to get another livery to fill the space of this one then institute some rules: i.e. Contract must be signed prior to putting horses in; any new horses introduced to the yard must be approved first by YO; no new horses without due notice and ALL new horses without exception to be quarantined/isolated when first brought on the yard. NO visitors other than by prior arrangement/permission; and NO giving out of confidential security details such as security no's to gates etc.

Lastly: being a YO is frequently not an easy task, you are expected to please everyone and offend no-one, and as OP has seen this isn't always easy. But determine to be perhaps a little more professionally detached in any future dealings with liveries, not easy especially if you live on site, and a rule I have frequently broken in the past, BUT with some people they mistake this "nice-ness" for you being a pushover, which OP is what has patently happened with this troublesome livery you've had. Start off by being strict starchy and efficient would be my advice - if you get a good livery you can always unbutton a little later on if you so wish, but don't be in a rush to do it. Have yard rules and stick to them! If you ARE in the position of needing additional help around the place occasionally then my advice would be to get someone in from outside to do the tasks rather than ask a livery as this is where boundaries get blurred and you get in the situation you have been in.

Keep things crisp and professional - and detached - would be my advice. You have a kind nature and obviously someone has taken advantage of that, and you need to protect yourself for the future :)
 
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alison247 said:
She has taken my large 6ft blanket trunk as she had all her gear in it and said she will give us a tenner for it when she comes back to muck out the 48hrs worth of mucky stable and poo pick.
I BET!!!
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Well if I were a bookie, I wouldn't give you great odds on that happening :). That said, the relief of having her off your property now must be worth a hundred trunks and a days worth of clearing fields and stables.

I'd certainly be following MJA2BT's 7 stage plan of action (alongside sticking pins into a doll and dobbing her in to DWP) :)
 
Only just seen this thread, however, if she has been leaving horses on your yard, she should have handed over their passports, which should be with a horse AT ALL TIMES, except when hacking out or being led to turnout. You could have reported her to Trading Standards, who may in any case be interested in her activities!!
 
Well done ,
Let's hope it's all over bar the cleaning up .
Don't harrow in the poo if you think it belongs the strangers lift it and rest the paddock .
Muck out clean and disinfect the stables and then have an deep breath and put it behind you .
 
Thank goodness she's gone, I hope you can relax now. You sound like a really nice person and it's terrible that she took advantage of you like that.
 
alison247 said:
GONE!
My OH went out and let her in.
She was contrite, no apology or explanation.
She just said I have come to get my horses. Good said my husband.
She then told him its cost her a fortune to hire the horsebox and she has to drive them to Hampshire now as nowhere in Kent for them to go. AND her gran died yesterday.
She has taken my large 6ft blanket trunk as she had all her gear in it and said she will give us a tenner for it when she comes back to muck out the 48hrs worth of mucky stable and poo pick.
I BET!!!
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Personally, I think you have been entirely unreasonable and incredibly cynical.... I think you should call her up and invite her back, poor dear she is clearly struggling. You should offer her free livery, use of your own stables too and offer to do all chores.

Shame on you! ;)

So glad she is gone OP, what a piece of work! Good riddance!!
 
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