FEI 2015 rule changes on bits in eventing dressage

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Has there been a thread here on this? Over in the US quite a few Coth members are exercised about the outlawing of bauchers and nathes and other bits for eventing dressage. Fixed bits are now illegal, and O rings required, or so it seems. It was a complete shock.
http://d2ig246cioy4di.cloudfront.ne...Eventing Rules 19 Dec 2014 with markup__0.pdf

If y'all have discussed it, I'd appreciate a link to the discussion.
 
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I thought it was just hanging cheeks and myler style mouthpieces not allowed anymore.
The diagrams show sided snaffles still allowed as well as fulmers?

It looks like 0 rings can still be loose and fixed, going by the diagrams of what is allowed?
 
Don't think it has been discussed yet...I am still in shock. I have a horse that will ONLY go in straight bar softest nathe and better people than me have tried to convince her otherwise. If BE adopt these rules for National comps that may well be the end of her BE career. Just don't understand the reasoning...
 
only_me said:
I thought it was just hanging cheeks and myler style mouthpieces not allowed anymore.
The diagrams show sided snaffles still allowed as well as fulmers?

It looks like 0 rings can still be loose and fixed, going by the diagrams of what is allowed?
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seems to require a jointed snaffle though?
 
I do not understand though why the sudden ban? I hope nothing comes out of it as my horse does go so much better without the nutcracker action. Will be interesting to see where BE goes with it.
 
I don't event, but it seems ridiculous to dis-allow snaffles which are allowed at BD competitions? Surely BD is what they should be aiming to follow?!
 
Perhaps I'm reading the changes wrong, but it looks to me as if full cheeks with keepers are illegal. I read the rule to say that jointed snaffles are required and that the joints must be metal. That would ban many of the plastic bits with parts.

I just don't understand who did this and why.
 
Hmm maybe that's what they mean by should not be attached to bridle, so no fulmers then?

Means normal sided/full cheek snaffles are still allowed though :)
 
which bit is the new number 7 on the snaffle bit list?

I have a myler in my horse so may as well think about changing it.

I need a bit with a eggbut type join (not a loose ring) and ideally independent movement, or at least a french link (although a barrel rather than french link would be better) the kinder the better basically!

anyone got any suggestions?
 
What I don't get is that they are saying they are changing their rules to match strongly with dressage. So why are hanging cheeks banned and why are grackles still allowed? Also for ponies why are double reins with a Pelham now banned? Rounding only? Crackers! ArcticFox have you thought about KK ultra bits or the NS Demi anky?
 
I t appears that dressage bridles and reins must be all leather now. No rubber or web reins allowed.

Where did all this idiocy come from? I do know that FEI rules have been changed because their constituencies raised cain. What vices are these changes supposed prevent? They just look like some picky bureaucratic bullhockey, making changes just because they can.

I have a horse with a broken tooth root at the bit seat which vets have told me to leave alone because it's where it is. He gets extremely upset about moving bits in his mouth, and he's already ulcer prone. If the NFs adopt these new bit rules, his eventing career is gone along with a great deal of his value. He goes well in bauchers and other "fixed" bits because of their stability.
 
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The bridle has always had to be leather but this does not include the reins. Bit no. 7 is a rotary bit. There are several contradictions that need addressing when the office reopens next week!!
 
Another who is concerned about the banning of straight bars in all phases of FEI events. Anyone know when the new BE rule book is released to know if they have a similar ruling for 2015?
Fingers crossed FEI revert back to allowing them from 2016 onwards and BE just ignore the fact it's happened!
 
Thanks for that. My mistake, still doesn't help me much!
I can't find anything in the new rules about reins having to be made of leather I.e. Rubber or webbing reins not allowed now. Can anyone clarify?
 
Well unaffiliated it is for me then if they bring that in. My mare will only tollerate a straight bar she physically can't stand any action on the tongue.
 
Sauchentree_lady said:
Another who is concerned about the banning of straight bars in all phases of FEI events. Anyone know when the new BE rule book is released to know if they have a similar ruling for 2015?
Fingers crossed FEI revert back to allowing them from 2016 onwards and BE just ignore the fact it's happened!
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I have asked the question on the BE website but they don't open again until Friday. It's madness :(
 
meardsall_millie said:
Please remember this only relates to FEI competitions at the moment (so 1*, 2*, 3* and 4*). There's nothing to indicate that BE will follow suit, and many of the BE rules are different to FEI.

Don't panic yet!
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yes - I am keeping everything crossed MM.:) Thought it was worthwhile letting BE know that there is a potential loss of revenue coming their way though if they do adopt. I know just a tiny drop in the ocean but nothing to lose by letting them know that this may well have a bigger effect esp as I can't see any welfare reason for the change....
 
meardsall_millie said:
Please remember this only relates to FEI competitions at the moment (so 1*, 2*, 3* and 4*). There's nothing to indicate that BE will follow suit, and many of the BE rules are different to FEI.

Don't panic yet!
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Sadly, like everything else, the rules will filter down to other societies.
It doesn't affect me personally because I no longer compete affiliate, but I'm struggling to see the logic behind banning mullen mouth snaffles - a kind bit which has been used successfully for centuries.
I think there is actually both a potential horse welfare and a rider safety issue here - horses do not have the same mouth conformation (an analogy could be - would we ask all the riders to only compete in size 9 boots regardless of their build, no, I didn't think so)
As for the pony rule of not allowing double reins on a pelham - come on FEI, do you not know how the bit is designed?
 
Those of you who say it won't effect you at unaff if changes are bought in BE are mistaken as PC & RC usually follow suit and most unaff is run by them. Pretty much most unaff then if not pc or RC says to follow the rules of BE.
 
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