Field shelters - Planning rules??

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I need to find out the rules on field shelters, now as far i can gather no planning permision is required?

Has anyone got a link to any info on them, eg, do they need to be moved 'X' amount of times a year, or do they have to be on grass only?

I cannot seem to find much info but really need some as having meeting with planners tomorrow, and would like to have a all my facts straight!!
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I think it goes as long as they are not standing on a concrete base and can be moved no planning is required!!
Mate had the same problem a few years ago so went for mobile shelters instead!!
 
The best idea is to phone your local council, easiest and they are normally quite good at telling you all the info.

I think as long as they are completely mobile, i.e. with wheels/sleigh then no PP is needed......I think. But it is confusing as you even need PP for showjumps (as change of use) so might be the samefor the field shelters
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Arh thanks, i thought this was the case.

As it goes we have 5 stables and built another 3 without p.p so now they have decided the 3 have to come down, although nobody can see them without coming onto the land.
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So we are having a site visit, to see if they will either change decision, or we tell them what we will do instead. (field shelters)
Do you know if they could go on hard standing, eg road clippings rolled firm?
 
Have a word with your local Planning Officer, as depending on where you are located, there may be additional restrictions outside of the Town and Country Planning Act.

We have a field which is in a conservation area and we are not allowed a 'structure' of any kind on our land. We did have a little 'back an forth' with the planners about an enclosure, but we managed to persuade them that it was not a structure.
 
Am in the thick of this one myself - bought 2 x mobile shelters on skeds....been up 45 days, someone has complained, Council say that as they have not moved since they went up (tricky in this weather and totally unclear as to whether they are saying that they need to move more frequently???) so am about to phone planning chap - he came out to site but was dressed in a suit and smart shoes so was not able to access the land - ours are on scalpings amd Council are now saying that this is a problem too - although not sure why as not perminent???

I do not want to apply for full planning for these mobile shelters in their current location as about to put in planning for an agricultural barn on that site and mobile shelters will move out to the outer fields. Seems silly to submit planning application now, knowing that a)shelters are on skids and b) don't want to get caught up in "overdevelopment" claim when they get muddled by mobile shelters and then a barn on the same spot!!! (and muddled they will be because life's like that!)

I spoke to the planners before the mobile shelters arrived and they said mobile is OK - I foolishly did not get that writing/blood/triplicate as now got ewes and lambs and temperatures of -9'C over night and the council telling me to take it all down (never mind the £4500 I spent on MOBILE shelters). Am not a happy camper.....!

So - talk to/go and see/insist if you can that they come out to site, apply for retro planning on your additional 3 stables and get them to tell you what they will/will not accept.

GOOD LUCK - you'll need it!
 
Sorry should have said, we did put in retrospective and it got knocked back. However we sold part of the land and 3 stables to my friend so technically its a whole new developement so we should have got the permision as well under the allowed square footage.
They have been up just over a year.
They are screened by thick trees on 3 sides so not causing a prob to anyone!
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Did you appeal? find yourself a good local planning advisor, it will cost you but their initial advice should be free and they would tell you if you have a cat in hell's chance or not and if so, they will fight it for you - it is worth it for the money IMO....

If it is not an enormous development and in a country'ish area, a good adviser ought to be able to sort it out - but, as I say, it won't be cheap!
 
mobile shelters have to be moved every 28 days. They cannot be returned to same site for 12 months after they've been moved - which means you cannot shuffle them back and forwards between 2 parts of the field and planners can interpret the 'no return' to mean the whole field, not just the site the shelter has been on

you cannot attach them permanently to any water/electricity supply

in national park areas you are onto a non-starter as they are regularly made to be removed from those sort of areas
 
not so....it is entirely down the individual officer - not even a clear rule council by council....it is open to interpretation.

Talk to your council officer - they are there to help and are paid for tax payers money so use them!

Find a local expert to advise you who can tap into the local council.

Good luck....
 
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not so....it is entirely down the individual officer - not even a clear rule council by council....it is open to interpretation.

Talk to your council officer - they are there to help and are paid for tax payers money so use them!

Find a local expert to advise you who can tap into the local council.

Good luck....

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Where we are they just have to be capable of being moved. Ours has not moved in 2 years, and is actually attached to posts driven into the ground (it's been blown over twice). The planners are absolutely fine with it on the basis that it has no foundations and could (at least in theory) be moved. And we're in a National Scenic Area.

The vendors of the shelters were able to advise us and cleared it with the Council. This was the main Scottish stable etc manufacturer (Saltire) so the Council were familiar with their products. If you've not done so, rope in the vendors, they should know what is and is not allowed and what different interpretations different planners apply.
 
Each district council seems to have their own policy on mobile field shelters. Some won't entertain them and others don't care less.

The theory being that they should not be on a base as otherwise they are deemed to be a permanent structure.

However the issue with any illegal development is that it will always come out when the land changes hand and someone wants confirmation regarding it's true status.

My advice is always go down th route of appointing a local surveyor who knows the planning department and get him to negotiate with the planners prior to putting an application in if that is what they require.
 
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