Filled Legs?

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We've got a lovely 17ish year old Anglo Arab mare who's legs have filled up all of a sudden?
She's been turned out in very large field just down the lane from the yard as it had loads grass in and she has awful trouble with putting and keeping weight on. She was down their for 5wks with an elderly gelding and, just as we hoped, she piled the weight on! (Little bit more still to go though!)

We brought her in on Friday morning as she was due for the farrier. Her feet were in a bit of a state so she's been having 'corrective farriery' in order to sort them out, this means after the farrier has been she can be a bit footy for 24hrs, anyway we kept her in her stable over night, and the next morning all four legs had filled and she could barely walk. We cold hosed her legs straight away and took her for a walk to get her circulation going, by the end of this the swelling had gone down dramatically and she was almost walking normally, a little stiff but not too bad at all. When we got back we turned her out in a feild at the yard so we could keep an eye on her and put out a little pony for company.
Today the swelling has gone down lots, and there's none now from mid cannon up to her hocks and knees, however she's still quite puffy around the back of ther tendons, fetlocks and especially around her pasterns and corronet? and she's still not sound at all, also if she stands still or lies down, this seems to make it a bit worse?
We though the stress of of leaving the gelding and comeing back to the yard, along with sore feet from the farrier (so she's stood still) and being stabled after 5wks caused the swelling?
That or she has a heart problem, maybe something to do with her liver/kidneys or possibly an issue with her lymphnodes??
I haven't seen anything like this before, the vets comeing out tomorrow but in the mean time, does anyone have any ideas? Or has anyone seen anything like this before?
Thank You!
 
Please do forgive the terrible spelling! That was done in rather a hurry and I forget the check it before i submitted the thread! Sorry!!
 
Hi - you have my sympathy , my boy filled up last week, was diagnosed with lymphangitis prob as a result of a fly bite reaction. was treated with antibiotics and anti inflammatories started to respond well but has now developed laminitis in response to all the above. am pretty gutted but without the lami he would be doing well. my last horse had similar but much worse with massive swelling to legs face belly and sheath - his knees were like footballs. he was Dx as systemic vasculitis and did really well with steroids. How is your boy doing now ?
 
My horses legs always fill when we start to bring him in overnight for winter after a summer of being out. When I spoke to my vet about it she was very unconcerned. Our local feed guru recommended buying a big bag of nettles and adding to his feed to aid circulation.
 
You're def on the right track with kidneys...

Filled legs can be a cause of a number of things but you have to take into consideration the recent history.

Lymphangitis is a concern but generally when routine has not changed and it happens suddenly and yes, very common for laminitis to occur afterwards as it is a metabolic shock to the system.

However, when it's due to rich grazing and suddenly bringing in, it's more to do with the lymph system being sluggish and that is down to many factors including an overloading of the filtering system in the body... The liver and kidneys!

Nettles are a great idea! Herbs are excellent to detox the liver and kidneys and the best one around is from Trinity Consultants. I always hear showing people talking about them and its a well kept secret but try L94.

Those kidneys need a helping hand to absorb and get rid of excess toxins which cause fluid retention in the extremities.

I do it with my horses especially my laminitic. Every autumn and spring.

Worth looking into!
 
Give her cupiss, it does that makes them pee so like a diuretic, you give it for 3 days and by peeing they drink more and clear their system of toxins.
 
STRIKER said:
Give her cupiss, it does that makes them pee so like a diuretic, you give it for 3 days and by peeing they drink more and clear their system of toxins.
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OP, Do not give anything that you have not run past your vet first. Herbs can have contraindications just the same as drugs can.

Striker, your comments and advice are questionable, many of your comments across a wide spectrum of topics on the forum are worrying. It should be remembered that there are many novice owners on the forum and a few 'expert novices' giving out inaccurate advice.
 
My mare had really bad filled legs once and it coincided with the grazing becoming richer. The Vet advised that it was due to too much protein, so all her hard feed was cut and she had restricted hours out in the field. I was told to exercise her (she wasn't lame) to get her circulation going and her legs did get noticeably smaller during each ride. after about a week, her legs were back to normal and once the grass was grazed down she returned to being out 24/7 and her legs didn't fill again.

I have also known horses that will get filled legs if they don't move enough. This can be due to being stabled or lameness.

I would be concerned that your horse is sore after being shod. My farrier is adamant that no horse should walk away from a trim or a shoeing less sound than they were before.

You have done the right thing getting the Vet out. I hope the visit goes well today. Please let us know how she gets on. :)
 
My old horse used to get filled legs when we changed from summer turnout (out 24/7) to winter (in during the night), just because wasn't moving around as much, according to vet nurse TB's have a terrible lympatic drainage system so it was very common. I did get him some Stable Chaps which appeared to help.
 
Adorable alice are you so out of control that you would just take a tablet that someone had as a prscription for them to take, no you wouldnt without speaking to your doctor just like any normal brained person wouldnt just give a drug to a horse without speaking to their vet or some one more experienced and if there are novice owners out there then all the more reason why they should ask advice first and nothing that i suggest is a prescription drug.

If you dont like my posts dont read them because i am not disappearing because of the likes of you. So you see famous names on the back of magazine advertising a product, that makes that product okay does it because its on the back of a magazine with Pippa Funnells face next to it. Get a life or go back in your cage, tut

Cupiss is one of the oldest herbal mixtures in the horsey world used regularly by race horse trainers for those that didnt go out on sunday, actually i dont need to explain myself. eing
 
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And furthermore if you are referring to me being an expert novice i would prefer it if you took that back because like you i know f...k...all.

Why dont you get me removed then..........the forum obviously belongs to you........
 
AdorableAlice said:
OP, Do not give anything that you have not run past your vet first. Herbs can have contraindications just the same as drugs can.

Striker, your comments and advice are questionable, many of your comments across a wide spectrum of topics on the forum are worrying. It should be remembered that there are many novice owners on the forum and a few 'expert novices' giving out inaccurate advice.
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Yes they can have but unlike drugs they are whole and have been used well before drugs were invented!

Drugs have to have licences because they are derivatives of plants and therefore need to be trialled and tested in order to make sure they are safe.
 
STRIKER said:
Adorable alice are you so out of control that you would just take a tablet that someone had as a prscription for them to take, no you wouldnt without speaking to your doctor just like any normal brained person wouldnt just give a drug to a horse without speaking to their vet or some one more experienced and if there are novice owners out there then all the more reason why they should ask advice first and nothing that i suggest is a prescription drug.

If you dont like my posts dont read them because i am not disappearing because of the likes of you. So you see famous names on the back of magazine advertising a product, that makes that product okay does it because its on the back of a magazine with Pippa Funnells face next to it. Get a life or go back in your cage, tut

Cupiss is one of the oldest herbal mixtures in the horsey world used regularly by race horse trainers for those that didnt go out on sunday, actually i dont need to explain myself. eing
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STRIKER said:
And furthermore if you are referring to me being an expert novice i would prefer it if you took that back because like you i know f...k...all.

Why dont you get me removed then..........the forum obviously belongs to you........
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Charmed I am sure.

Re-read and understand my comment. It would appear you read it in haste and perhaps did not quite understand my point. Indeed I have a horse that suffered a contraindication to a well known performance supplement which resulted in him spending a week in hospital when he should have been competing at national level.

I stand by my comment that your advice to give the op's horse a herbal remedy for an undiagnosed issue is inappropriate at best and dangerous at worst.
 
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